Britney Endorses Communism

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24 minutes ago, littlepotter said:

Do you only get your facts from American media  

Let me tell you what you just said:

Communist Chinese dictator did something bad = cUmMuNiSm BaD

Capitalist world leaders commit horrors since the dawn of time = nothing 

+ have you not seen the shortage of supply in all the capitalist countries? Open your eyes

Except the beautiful thing about capitalism is that it gets restocked.

My polish in-laws who lived during the reign of Soviet Russia never really had that luck of seeing things restocked overnight but ... I guess their experiences don’t matter because they paint communism negatively 

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Just now, derpmonster said:

In the case of communism, it's attempts at communism that happened. The revolutions were real but they were hijacked by dictators who instead did it for power and were authoritarian. Once the dictators came into power, it became more like an authoritarian partly socialist regime, not a communist one. Communism as defined by Marx, the inventor, is literally incompatible with anything that happened in China or the USSR.

Marxism is a form of communism, among the many forms of communism that happened. 

This is just a way to spin reality and conclude that true communism happen and therefore glamorise it. You might as well do the same for fascism and capitalism and say that the true requirements for them to be what they claim to be weren't  met.

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2 minutes ago, FfFfFfFF said:

Source?

https://www.brasil247.com/blog/governos-dos-eua-mataram-110-milhoes-de-pessoas-ao-longo-do-seculo

It's in portuguese

There was a thread about it, here on Gagadaily

 

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7 minutes ago, catsandlabneh said:

> Shortages literally happening under a capitalist system
> Somehow it's a communist issue and not a, you know, capitalist one

sis?

Only under capitalist regimes do those shortages then restore over night and you can go into the same store the next day to find fully stocked shelves ... but yes let’s pretend those shortages are due to capitalism and not panic buying 

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5 minutes ago, MissKombucha said:

Except the beautiful thing about capitalism is that it gets restocked.

My polish in-laws who lived during the reign of Soviet Russia never really had that luck of seeing things restocked overnight but ... I guess their experiences don’t matter because they paint communism negatively 

The fact that I can clearly tell which users are from former communist countries based on their posts.

Good luck for the Western girls at practicing this communism they are talking about.

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

Just now, August3 said:

Okay, since when have rich CELEBRITIES always advocated communism?

Doctors, lawyers, shopowners and many other professionals are also rich, but you never hear them advocating communism. Why??? Because these people - many of whom are lifesavers and essential in our communities - don’t want to shove their opinions down people’s throats. It’s only ever celebrities that do it. Of course not all celebrities, but as a group it’s only ever them.

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2 hours ago, ProjectJoanne said:

Wait... so like I get it, but is communism starting to be a good thing? 

Cause it's seems like it shouldn't

USA is starting to make it look good

[derpmonster 22,412]

Just now, FfFfFfFF said:

Marxism is a form of communism, among the many forms of communism that happened. 

This is just a way to spin reality and conclude that true communism happen and therefore glamorise it. You might as well do the same for fascism and capitalism and say that the true requirements for them to be what they claim to be weren't  met.

Marx is literally the first person to come up with the concept. He wrote the communist manifesto... other forms of communism are attempts at doing something else under the name of communism. If you read the manifesto, you'd know what communism really is, a stateless, classless society, and how nothing we've had is close to that.

What you're saying is like "democracy has multiple forms and a liberal democracy is one of them. North Korea's is another."

And I'm not a communist. I believe communism is unachievable. But the facts are we've never had communism, only authoritarian governments that claimed to be communist.

I have no reason to glamorize it. I recognize the awful acts of injustice that occurred under self-proclaimed communist regimes. Calling them what they really were (aka not communist) doesn't make me a sympathizer for their atrocities.

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Britney Spears seemingly called for the redistribution of wealth and a general strike on Monday, "regramming" a post written by Instagram user Mimi Zhu. "During this time of isolation, we need connection now more than ever," the text shared by Spears said, going on to describe how "we will learn to kiss and hold each other through the waves of the web. We will feed each other, redistribute wealth, strike. We will understand our own importance from the places we must stay."

The "Work B---h" singer captioned the post by quoting the text's penultimate line — "communion [moves] beyond walls" — and adding three emoji roses, a symbol commonly used by the Democratic Socialists of America.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/904391/britney-spears-calls-wealth-redistribution-general-strike-instagram

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At a time like this, we must turn to those who are greater than us 

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8 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

Doctors, lawyers, shopowners and many other professionals are also rich, but you never hear them advocating communism. Why??? Because these people - many of whom are lifesavers and essential in our communities - don’t want to shove their opinions down people’s throats. It’s only ever celebrities that do it. Of course not all celebrities, but as a group it’s only ever them.

I have literally never heard about any rich celebrities advocating for communism. Can you name some examples? Apart from dear Britney of course

[derpmonster 22,412]

No matter how you feel about communism (which is what the other thread became), the actual message here is not bad. We do all need to come together in a time like this and help one another.

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10 minutes ago, derpmonster said:

Marx is literally the first person to come up with the concept. He wrote the communist manifesto... other forms of communism are attempts at doing something else under the name of communism. If you read the manifesto, you'd know what communism really is, a stateless, classless society, and how nothing we've had is close to that.

 

It doesn't matter he was the first, marxism is still a form of communism, among the many other forms of communism that happened. Many doctrines start as something and evolve into different things and many theories are something and end up a different thing once they are applied. There is such thing as pre-Marxism/ primmordial communism as well. 

 

10 minutes ago, derpmonster said:

What you're saying is like "democracy has multiple forms and a liberal democracy is one of them. North Korea's is another."

Communism has happened and is still happening in some parts of thr world. This is the word used in regard to the regim of certain states. It's undisputable for someone who lived in a former communist country that this word has a real meaning. You may think that communism altered Marx's original view, however communism is what has been practicised not what was first theoretised in one of Marx's books. You may even argue that modern day democracy is not real democray because the requirements set in Ancient times are no longer met.

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4 minutes ago, FfFfFfFF said:

It doesn't matter he was the first, marxism is still a form of communism, among the many other forms of communism that happened. Many doctrines start as something and evolve into different things and many theories are something and end up a different thing once they are applied. There is such thing as pre-Marxism/ primmordial communism as well. 

 

Communism has happened and is still happening in some parts of thr world. This is the word used in regard to the regim of certain states. It's undisputable for someone who lived in a former communist country that this word has a real meaning. You may think that communism altered Marx's original view, however communism is what has been practicised not what was first theoretised in one of Marx's books. You may even argue that modern day democray is not real democray because the requirements set in Anciet times are no longer met.

Agree to disagree.

It's not that a simple requirement is unmet. It's very core nature is completely different. Communism, as defined by Marx and before him, is anarchist. What countries did was authoritarian. That's not a matter of checking boxes, that's completely the opposite which is why you can't reasonably use the same word to define that.

The distinction is important so we can actually truly understand the authoritarian regimes and condemn those instead of scapegoat anarcho-communism with it, something that has nothing to do with those regimes and hasn't ever been done. This is a matter of political science. It's acknowledged and understood in all political science textbooks.

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1 minute ago, August3 said:

I have literally never heard about any rich celebrities advocating for communism. Can you name some examples? Apart from dear Britney of course

They do it without explicitly using the C word by replacing it with euphemisms (i.e. less overtly political words) such as “democratic socialism” or “social justice”, or simply by talking smack about capitalism itself. There are lots of examples of this, just google “celebriities who attack capitalism”.

Essentially they are using their freedom of speech to attack everyone else’s freedom of choice.