bumblebee 2,528 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 just. so. beautiful. :cry: every word :worship: Thank you very much! love you xoxo but please do note I am not trying to shade any of those artists. I believe music is beautiful because of its diversity, but when somebody is trying to bash Gaga using reasonable arguments, I can't help but respond. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanilla 660 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 No one cares about Madonna in GGD. What GGD are you on? I won't die, but I can't live without you Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblebee 2,528 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Rihanna was around for 7 seven years, please... And she can't even manage to sell the nation stadium of France 2 times... and she's already boring to people... can I dare to ask you why she finally was able to reach the #1 at BB?! She tried so hard to top BB with Diamonds... Please, if you're trying to drag Gaga down, please, talk about someone that has outsold Gaga, has more awards than Gaga, has more than 2 tours that grossed more than 200 MIL $, someone that was able to sell stadiums out only 4 years in the industry, someone that was more critically acclaimed than Gaga, etc. And if you keep on spamming with thread effortlessly because you have nothing better to do, I'll have to report you because this is getting ridiculous. If you think Gaga is that untalented and incapable to be in the music industry then I suggest you to go to Exhale, ATRL or every other forum you can bash Gaga for what she really is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Fans should concede that Gaga isn't at the height of her career right now though, it's coming off as delusional to try to keep defending her with the tour and not much else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditaparlo 0 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Lady Gaga, Lady Starlight, The Darkness Stade De France Paris, France Sept. 22, 2012 $6,367,305 70,617 / 70,617 1 / 1 $149.26, $58.41 Live Nation Global Touring/Live Nation France 70% off? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblebee 2,528 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Fans should concede that Gaga isn't at the height of her career right now though, it's coming off as delusional to try to keep defending her with the tour and not much else. You're very radical. Cause your post may lead to thoughts like she is in the deepest sh*t and vomit and no one is interested in who she is and what she does, although that's pretty incorrect. Sweet Disney, this media blackout is actually testing the fans more than the Born This Way era itself. :toofunny: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
28386 0 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Anyways, take a minute of your precious time and post the link to the RIAA where the 7 times platinum certification of the Good Girl Gone Bad is registered, so that we all know you're a reliable and objective user who is interested in the reasonable discussion, not just a blind and delusional troll. Then, actually, the tour. Or tours. Firstly, Madonna failed to top her previous tour gross, ticket sales, and you can't just say "she will be hardly ever to top the level of the last tour straight away". It's a serious fact which is pointing at some complicated problems. We all have witnessed the commercial performance of the MDNA album (Lord, forgive for even mentioning this title), with the best single peaking at No. 10 on the Billboard Hot 100. So it was just a prove that the core Madonna fanbase left from the best times isn't able so secure even a 1,000,000 copies of her album being shipped in her native country. Which, basically, means her album-single sales power is already left in the past and witnessed its peak. Now, her new tour, one of the biggest (date-wise) tours she has ever done is witnessing a 40% drop in the ticket sales, and a 27% less cash flow from all the concerts, although she is having 88 f*cking dates instead of 85 with S&S tour. Why are there 1,400,000 less tickets sold when she is playing more gigs? What happened to that? Not a thousand, not dozen of thousands, but 1,400,000 LESS TICKETS.it Does it mean that her touring power is now also left in the past, peaking in 2009? Ouch. And you can't say here that she is selling 1,400,000 less tickets 'cause she is playing less concerts, as she even increased the number of shows compared to her previous tour! Now Gaga. Gaga is doing her first proper worldwide tour which is covering all the continents except Icy Land. She is playing 80 less dates compared to the Monster Ball Tour, seeing 18% less tickets sold (this projection is based on the prediction that her every show in North America attracts not more than 12,000 people) and watches her cash flows drop just 11%. Well, well, well. What's wrong here? I don't actually know. We can just say that 11% cash drop may be partly explained by the fact there are 80 less dates in this tour compared to her previous one? Or that her average ticket price is lower than somebody's (guess whose). Call me back when anybody of her contemporaries places two back-to-back $200 M grossing tours. I believe Coldplay would do, but they are a bit older than Gaga (they are active from 1996). I love Rihanna but please do note Gaga didn't need to bring one of the most famous DJs of the planet with her to sell out Stade de France. And, finally. Madonna achieved the $200 M gross for the first time with her Confessions Tour in 2006, when she was already 27 years in the business. Gaga did a $227M grossing tour when just 3 years passed since her debut album being released. Are you blind? I already said if you want to find that out GOOGLE IT Firstly: All tour dates have NOT been released Wrong there is a thing called a PEAK Sticky & Sweet was one,You cannot peak all the time... Once again your figures are wrong the full tour has NOT been released LOL She hadn't been to Latin America for THIRTEEN Years so (Obviously) the demand will be higher last time... Europe had TWO Short-ish legs compared to one longer one MDNA is the highest grossing tour of 2012,Second highest grossing female tour of all time,Second only to HER OWN TOUR 'The Monster Ball' was a THREE YEAR LONG 200 date tour with 2 different versions and didn't even break EVEN Lady Gaga is NOT the biggest pop star she has been passed out MANY times Rihanna sold out Stade De France with FULL PRICED tickets fair and square You are also forgetting inflation Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George 363 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 This thread should be named "Sold out shows of Gaga compared to the rest of the word" honestly, lool IMO, Gaga has done greeat with Born This Way Ball, and with the correct management, she should do better with her next tour. She is playing at the top level, along with madge, springsteen, the stones, which is like a dream, and she is doing it with 4 years of career and 2.5 albums (did someone mention somebody with 7 seven albums with average critiques, one per year, like a machine?). Am I saying she is the top touring force that has ever existed? No (U2 is), but she is doing amazing for her career, and nooobody will spoil this for me :) Finally, Billboard doesnt go running through the arena or stadium counting people, they report what Live Nation informs. If they inform 100% sold, then it is and LN is happy with it, positive numbers. When people claim a show is a distaster, it is not a fact, its only a biased opinion. And lol at people saying youtube measures how big an artist is, I mean... Psy? Hello, it's me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaMiles 0 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) Anyways, take a minute of your precious time and post the link to the RIAA where the 7 times platinum certification of the Good Girl Gone Bad is registered, so that we all know you're a reliable and objective user who is interested in the reasonable discussion, not just a blind and delusional troll. Then, actually, the tour. Or tours. Firstly, Madonna failed to top her previous tour gross, ticket sales, and you can't just say "she will be hardly ever to top the level of the last tour straight away". It's a serious fact which is pointing at some complicated problems. We all have witnessed the commercial performance of the MDNA album (Lord, forgive for even mentioning this title), with the best single peaking at No. 10 on the Billboard Hot 100. So it was just a prove that the core Madonna fanbase left from the best times isn't able so secure even a 1,000,000 copies of her album being shipped in her native country. Which, basically, means her album-single sales power is already left in the past and witnessed its peak. Now, her new tour, one of the biggest (date-wise) tours she has ever done is witnessing a 40% drop in the ticket sales, and a 27% less cash flow from all the concerts, although she is having 88 f*cking dates instead of 85 with S&S tour. Why are there 1,400,000 less tickets sold when she is playing more gigs? What happened to that? Not a thousand, not dozen of thousands, but 1,400,000 LESS TICKETS.it Does it mean that her touring power is now also left in the past, peaking in 2009? Ouch. And you can't say here that she is selling 1,400,000 less tickets 'cause she is playing less concerts, as she even increased the number of shows compared to her previous tour! Now Gaga. Gaga is doing her first proper worldwide tour which is covering all the continents except Icy Land. She is playing 80 less dates compared to the Monster Ball Tour, seeing 18% less tickets sold (this projection is based on the prediction that her every show in North America attracts not more than 12,000 people) and watches her cash flows drop just 11%. Well, well, well. What's wrong here? I don't actually know. We can just say that 11% cash drop may be partly explained by the fact there are 80 less dates in this tour compared to her previous one? Or that her average ticket price is lower than somebody's (guess whose). Call me back when anybody of her contemporaries places two back-to-back $200 M grossing tours. I believe Coldplay would do, but they are a bit older than Gaga (they are active from 1996). I love Rihanna but please do note Gaga didn't need to bring one of the most famous DJs of the planet with her to sell out Stade de France. And, finally. Madonna achieved the $200 M gross for the first time with her Confessions Tour in 2006, when she was already 27 years in the business. Gaga did a $227M grossing tour when just 3 years passed since her debut album being released. :clap: This pretty much sums everything up. Some people are so deluded that I worry for mankind. But this post just made my life. And to the troll talking about Madonna, I love Madonna but those MB comparisons aren't even fair. Gaga played in THEATERS for her first leg. Hence the 7,000 average. And Who's That Girl was supporting her THIRD studio album (My all-time favorite: True Blue ) FOUR years into her career whereas the MB started 1.5 years into Gaga's career for TFM which may or may not be considered a full LP depending on who you talk to. Stop comparing apples to oranges. Edited January 6, 2013 by PDXMonster Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George 363 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Are you blind? I already said if you want to find that out GOOGLE IT Firstly: All tour dates have NOT been released Wrong there is a thing called a PEAK Sticky & Sweet was one,You cannot peak all the time... Once again your figures are wrong the full tour has NOT been released LOL She hadn't been to Latin America for THIRTEEN Years so (Obviously) the demand will be higher last time... Europe had TWO Short-ish legs compared to one longer one MDNA is the highest grossing tour of 2012,Second highest grossing female tour of all time,Second only to HER OWN TOUR 'The Monster Ball' was a THREE YEAR LONG 200 date tour with 2 different versions and didn't even break EVEN Lady Gaga is NOT the biggest pop star she has been passed out MANY times Rihanna sold out Stade De France with FULL PRICED tickets fair and square You are also forgetting inflation Pollstar gave the total madge numbers and billboard gave the offical info of 2.5 million tickets sold for the monster ball, sure you know how to google :) Hello, it's me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
28386 0 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Rihanna was around for 7 seven years, please... And she can't even manage to sell the national stadium of France 2 times... and she's already boring to people... can I dare to ask you why she finally was able to reach the #1 on BB?! She tried so hard to top BB with Diamonds... Please, if you're trying to drag Gaga down, please, talk about someone that has outsold Gaga, has more awards than Gaga, has more than 2 tours that grossed more than 200 MIL $, someone that was able to sell stadiums out only 4 years after being in the industry, someone that was more critically acclaimed than Gaga, etc. And if you keep on spamming this thread effortlessly because you have nothing better to do, I'll have to report you because this is getting ridiculous. If you think Gaga is that untalented and incapable to be in the music industry then I suggest you to go to Exhale, ATRL or every other forum you can bash Gaga for what she really is. I never mentioned how long she has been around she is fast passing out Gaga in more and more areas **** off report me all you want all I am stating is facts to the deluded idiots on here who think 'No one cares about Madonna' when she is in fact MILES ahead of her and always has been Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreLovesU 0 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Stade De France SOLD OUT within a few weeks (Gaga's was 70% off) What lmao the concerts attendance are usually 72,000 and Gaga sold +70,000 and she didn't have any promotion like Rihanna did for her Stade De France... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
28386 0 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Pollstar gave the total madge numbers and billboard gave the offical info of 2.5 million tickets sold for the monster ball, sure you know how to google :) All according to Pollstar,The monster ball (3 years on the road) did not sell 2,5m tickets according to Billboard What lmao the concerts attendance are usually 72,000 and Gaga sold +70,000 and she didn't have any promotion like Rihanna did for her Stade De France... What promotion did Rihanna have? Gaga DID have 70% OFF promotions ( I was considering going LOL) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblebee 2,528 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Are you blind? I already said if you want to find that out GOOGLE IT Firstly: All tour dates have NOT been released Wrong there is a thing called a PEAK Sticky & Sweet was one,You cannot peak all the time... Once again your figures are wrong the full tour has NOT been released LOL She hadn't been to Latin America for THIRTEEN Years so (Obviously) the demand will be higher last time... Europe had TWO Short-ish legs compared to one longer one MDNA is the highest grossing tour of 2012,Second highest grossing female tour of all time,Second only to HER OWN TOUR 'The Monster Ball' was a THREE YEAR LONG 200 date tour with 2 different versions and didn't even break EVEN Lady Gaga is NOT the biggest pop star she has been passed out MANY times Rihanna sold out Stade De France with FULL PRICED tickets fair and square You are also forgetting inflation I really thought you were a rational and logical speaker! Holy f*ck. Using pictures as a source Also, to your arrogant inflation mention: please do educate yourself before trying to use such a term here. comparison of cash flows over time doesn't require only the study of inflation, but also should involve change in purchasing power parity and the discount rate. Gurl bye Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreLovesU 0 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) All according to Pollstar,The monster ball (3 years on the road) did not sell 2,5m tickets according to Billboard What promotion did Rihanna have? Gaga DID have 70% OFF promotions ( I was considering going LOL) I didn't mean promotion like sale and Gaga tickets didn't have any sale LOL By promotion, i meant performances + single + this was the time of the 777 Tour, en event that everybody talked about And we can't compare the old Madonna tours bc of the inflation, but why do you always have to diss Gaga ? She's been there for like only 5 years and she already can get these numbers ! Edited January 6, 2013 by AndreLovesU Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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