Morphine Prince 109,645 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 I hope Bernie does drop out. It's useless at this point. There is no path forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,161 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 minute ago, nathantj594 said: Okay I’ve been relatively silent on this topic since the beginning because I believe democrats can’t afford to eat each other alive and expect to still beat Trump. But after tonight, specially in Michigan, how can you Bernie supporters say the DNC is handing this to Biden? Bernie won Michigan in 2016 with +14 of the white vote. Tonight he got -6 with whites in Michigan. That’s a 20 point swing against him in his most stable demographic. He even lost to Biden among non-college-educated whites. How is the DNC fixing this for Biden when more people in Bernie’s demographics are voting Biden? Not to mention the black vote...which is probably the most important part of the Democratic demographic outside of poor whites. Which are voting for Biden too. The youth vote has gone down since 2016. Bernie isn’t getting the vote he got 4 years ago. The people aren’t voting for him. Especially the people in the important demographics. How exactly is the DNC cheating for Biden? It's a multitude of different factors: 1. The Youth Turnout - There's just no denying this. For some reason, the youth turnout has gotten worse, and at best, has stayed the same. I don't know why it's so low. If young people actually went out there and did as they preached on Twitter, we'd be having a very different race. 2. The Media Narrative - The media can be very impactful. In my opinion, this is the biggest reason for Biden's boost. The reason Biden turned around so well from Nevada to South Carolina/Super Tuesday was because of the media. They blew his win in SC way out of proportion. I mean, Bernie won by similar margins in Nevada, and what media coverage did he get? Nothing. The media does a lot to shape a person's political views, whether they think about it consciously or not. The reason why Biden's doing so well is because the media has told people that Biden's the most electable candidate, and so, they vote for him. 3. Establishment Democrats - Look, there's no denying that establishment democrats don't want Bernie to win. Bernie poses an existential threat to the establishment that many people fear. I don't think they're rigging votes or anything like that, but I do think they're putting as much money and resources behind Biden as much as possible. You've got sooo many establishment/corporate dems supporting Joe, and that's not a coincidence. This, combined with the media narrative, makes people want to vote for Biden, and hey, while I disagree with it, I can't necessarily fault people for believing them. 4. Electability - This goes along with the media narrative. At this point, people just want to vote for the most "electable" candidate. I, for one, have completely disagreed with the notion that Biden's the most electable, but the majority of people don't see it that way. Biden, being a moderate, has people thinking that because he's not as "radical" as Bernie, he's more likely to get votes in the Senate and work with Republicans. Personally, I don't see it that way. The parties are so polarized at this point that it doesn't matter if we nominate Biden or Bernie, Republicans don't want to work with us. It's just that simple. That said, many people don't see it that way. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Heart 15,041 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 #LoseWithBiden now trending on Twitter. Oh come on people. ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,645 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Lion Heart said: #LoseWithBiden now trending on Twitter. Oh come on people. If Bernie drops out now at least there will be time to unify for those people who are thinking of not voting for Biden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,161 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Yup, it's over. The debates in the general are going to be a DISASTER omg. Watch people be like, "Oh my gosh, Biden's terrible at debates!" Like, y'all bitches didn't see this in the primaries?! He can't speak coherently at all! Trump will 100% annihilate him at the debates. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,645 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 Andrew Yang has just endorsed Biden on CNN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,645 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, M Monstre said: Watch people be like, "Oh my gosh, Biden's terrible at debates!" Like, y'all bitches didn't see this in the primaries?! He can't speak coherently at all! Trump will 100% annihilate him at the debates. At least it will be fun to watch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,161 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, PoshLife said: That would explain why he's flying home to Vermont. If that's true, that breaks my heart... Bernie's fought so hard, and he'll continue to fight, but it's so sad to see all this wasted potential. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy 5,686 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 @Florin @Whispering @Adakam @PoshLife @Halsey @Lois Griffin @POP2 @JusKeepBreathin Congrats Neolibs! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathantj594 902 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, M Monstre said: It's a multitude of different factors: 1. The Youth Turnout - There's just no denying this. For some reason, the youth turnout has gotten worse, and at best, has stayed the same. I don't know why it's so low. If young people actually went out there and did as they preached on Twitter, we'd be having a very different race. 2. The Media Narrative - The media can be very impactful. In my opinion, this is the biggest reason for Biden's boost. The reason Biden turned around so well from Nevada to South Carolina/Super Tuesday was because of the media. They blew his win in SC way out of proportion. I mean, Bernie won by similar margins in Nevada, and what media coverage did he get? Nothing. The media does a lot to shape a person's political views, whether they think about it consciously or not. The reason why Biden's doing so well is because the media has told people that Biden's the most electable candidate, and so, they vote for him. 3. Establishment Democrats - Look, there's no denying that establishment democrats don't want Bernie to win. Bernie poses an existential threat to the establishment that many people fear. I don't think they're rigging votes or anything like that, but I do think they're putting as much money and resources behind Biden as much as possible. You've got sooo many establishment/corporate dems supporting Joe, and that's not a coincidence. This, combined with the media narrative, makes people want to vote for Biden, and hey, while I disagree with it, I can't necessarily fault people for believing them. 4. Electability - This goes along with the media narrative. At this point, people just want to vote for the most "electable" candidate. I, for one, have completely disagreed with the notion that Biden's the most electable, but the majority of people don't see it that way. Biden, being a moderate, has people thinking that because he's not as "radical" as Bernie, he's more likely to get votes in the Senate and work with Republicans. Personally, I don't see it that way. The parties are so polarized at this point that it doesn't matter if we nominate Biden or Bernie, Republicans don't want to work with us. It's just that simple. That said, many people don't see it that way. 1. That isn’t Biden’s fault though. That’s Bernie’s fault if anything 2. They made more of a deal out of SC than Nevada because SC gave far more delegates. I don’t believe this though. Bernie’s demographics don’t get their news from traditional media. They’re online all the time. How can what CNN did after SC hurt Bernie tonight in Michigan? I just can’t get behind that narrative. If anything, the media focusing on Biden would persuade Bernie’s voters to go out and help their guy to prove them wrong, right? 3. I’m not talking about Biden’s base. I’m talking about Bernie’s. How does establishment democrats favoring Biden make the DNC somehow against Bernie? 4. Are you saying Bernie’s electability Or lack thereof is making the DNC throw the race For Biden? I am asking why Bernie supporters are blaming the DNC. Every Projection thread on Facebook has about 20 comments from Bernie supporters going on and on about how this was fixed in Biden’s favor. I like Bernie and Biden. I want to see Either of them beat Trump. In 2016, at this point, Bernie was doing better but he fought Clinton tooth and nail all the way to the convention for nothing. And it looks like he’s going to do the same this year when he’s doing worse. Why won’t he or his supporters get behind the front runner so we can win this election? It doesn’t look good for Bernie going forward. Where can he make up the delegate deficit? And Paula Abdul ain’t got [BLEEP] on me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,645 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Buddy said: @Florin @Whispering @Adakam @PoshLife @Halsey @Lois Griffin @POP2 @JusKeepBreathin Congrats Neolibs! Me to Trump when he wins again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatica 7,042 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 This has honestly been the best birthday a ******* could ever ask for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harris Walz 2024 1,451 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Ya'll smell summin' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatica 7,042 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Yang endorsed Biden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,645 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 Thanks to this primary my ignore list has been updated for the better. Love you all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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