Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I bet Trump 2020 is happening and he's gonna win popular vote Expect a lower turn out than 2016 aswell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, M Monstre said: I'm not saying Tump is an eloquent debater. I don't think that at all. I'm saying that Trump is not afraid to play dirty, and when Biden is someone who can't even complete his sentences on a debate stage, Trump's going to drill into him. That’s true. Trump will probably go low. Based on the way Biden is speaking to his base during the primary, he won’t be afraid to get scrappy during the general. It’s going to be embarrassing for all of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathantj594 902 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 minute ago, M Monstre said: 1. I never said it was Biden's fault. It's not Bernie's fault either, though. It's young voters' fault for not getting out there and voting. 2. Like I said, the media's impact on people's perception of this race, and politics in general, is astonishing. Most people get their news from the mainstream media, and when you have every pundit being like, "Biden CRUSHED Bernie in South Carolina!", "Biden can win against Donald Trump!", "Biden's the only way to go", "Bernie's too radical and his policies are too leftist", etc., etc., etc., then it's easy to see why people are swayed so easily. If all they believe is what the media tells them, of course they're voting Biden. And look, it wasn't just South Carolina, but it was Super Tuesday as well. The big media coverage coming from SC went on and made a significant impact on Super Tuesday, and consequently, those two events have made an impact on tonight's elections. 3. Listen to the question you posed again. "How do establishment democrats favoring Biden make the DNC somehow against Bernie?" I mean, that's clear as day right there. Establishment and corporate Dems make up a large portion of the DNC. Why would they want Bernie Sanders—a guy who wants to effectively restructure the government away from the establishment people—to win? 4. I'm saying that the DNC and establishment dems want Biden to win because, well, #1) he's one of them, but #2) they believe he's more electable than Bernie. I mean, why would you vote for someone you don't think will win the general election? This is what the primaries are fighting for. On your second point, I don’t know what media outlets you’ve been listening to or watching but I never heard any of that. I’ve heard Bernie supporters saying stuff like that, but outside of OPINION PUNDITS who are paid for their opinion, I have never seen any headline or any anchor on CNN NBC CBS ABC or NYT/WP, saying any of that stuff. Can you cite me some sources where anyone said outside of opinion statements where it was said “Bernie is too leftist” or “Biden’s the only way to go” please show me. And Paula Abdul ain’t got [BLEEP] on me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,886 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, littlepotter said: Good luck convincing the Bernie supporters who for the second time in a row saw their biggest hope robbed out of their hands by puppetmasters. Good luck. I was a Bernie supporter twice, I voted for the Dem nominee twice. If Bernie supporters don't vote blue no matter who, then they weren't in this fight for the right reasons anyway. Can't convince someone that won't open their mind. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 116,994 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I mean..., of course Yang did. Let’s not act we didn't see this coming. Since the beginning, Bernie doesn’t have a chance, and was not favored by the party. Throughout his career, Sanders has maintained an outsider image by maintaining a foot in independent party politics. Sanders only in after he has signed a pledge to the Democratic National Committee to run and serve as a Democrat if elected president. Cos he know he won’t have a chance if running as Independent. But still never was the primary choice for the party. Cos after all said and done, he is still the outsider. Americans may want a viable independent to run for president, but that sentiment is not enough. The old adage "politics abhors a vacuum" is true, but vast obstacles make it incredibly arduous to fill the vacuum despite desire of a majority of Americans. The reality and rules imposed by the two-party duopoly is a formidable barricade to the success of such a candidacy. (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ ᶠʳᵒⁿᵗ ᵗᵒʷᵃʳᵈ ᵉⁿᵉᵐʸ (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,645 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 At least Hillary was competent Joe is just.... omfg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadariousGarage 1 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: At least Hillary was competent Joe is just.... omfg She was, barely Guess we are getting another 4 years of Trump Lets do it baby I know the Law Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,562 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 22 minutes ago, Lois Griffin said: This has honestly been the best birthday a ******* could ever ask for. A guaranteed loss to Trump? Wow, Gaga really does appeal to everyone, far right included 😳 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,645 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 Here's to hoping Biden changes his platform to be more to the left like Hillary did in 2016. Cause as of now hers was better than Biden's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Joon 229 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 PREDICTION: Biden will win in November, but he'll do so by thousands, if not millions, of phony mail-in ballots. Trump will demand an investigation, which will lead to chaos and eventually Civil War II. Kinda excited hihi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Joon 229 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I wonder if Bernie will drop out if the DNC offers him another summer house Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatica 7,042 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: A guaranteed loss to Trump? Wow, Gaga really does appeal to everyone, far right included 😳 Dad tell them to stop picking on me @FATCAT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LateToCult 41,827 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 People are saying Bernie is flying back to Vermont Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 76,610 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, FATCAT said: I was a Bernie supporter twice, I voted for the Dem nominee twice. If Bernie supporters don't vote blue no matter who, then they weren't in this fight for the right reasons anyway. Can't convince someone that won't open their mind. What makes you think this 'fight' HAS to be your way only? Why so dismissive of the very valid fight that is opposing establishment and the status quo, which the DNC embody? I personally would VBNMH but I also respect those who care about more than just beating Trump. chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adakam 2 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 30 minutes ago, Buddy said: @Florin @Whispering @Adakam @PoshLife @Halsey @Lois Griffin @POP2 @JusKeepBreathin Congrats Neolibs! Thanks! better luck next time!, maybe you can actually get the lazy youth off their couches to vote! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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