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2020 March 10 Democratic Primaries


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Miel
10 hours ago, StarstruckIllusion said:

The only problem is the lack of political will to fight against the establishment and get it done. Every state, including conservative ass Alabama has majority support for Medicare For All. The people want it, so in time it will come.
 

Sad how a few hundred thousand more have to die for it to happen/people dont see the constant goal post shifting that has happened since FDR (a U.S. president from 1930s!) to “make tiny but moderate steps” to... clearly never getting it fully done :ladyhaha:

Like, I know every election has "life or death" implications for some groups, but within the context of universal health care, that topic is now at the forefront, and it's kind of getting sideswiped by moderate dems? Like??

It's also sad to me that specific minority groups and younger age brackets are turning out to vote more than before, and are generally showing more support for the progressive candidates than not, and it's still not enough.

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Whispering

Sanders did not win a single county in Michigan, Missouri, or Mississippi.

M States are “the establishment”.

 

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Lion Heart

 

I missed that. :heart:

Also there's still hundreds of delegates to award in March + 800 more in April. This isn't over yet and I'm glad Bernie decided to stay in.

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MACATL
21 hours ago, M Monstre said:

It's a multitude of different factors:

1. The Youth Turnout - There's just no denying this. For some reason, the youth turnout has gotten worse, and at best, has stayed the same. I don't know why it's so low. If young people actually went out there and did as they preached on Twitter, we'd be having a very different race.

2. The Media Narrative - The media can be very impactful. In my opinion, this is the biggest reason for Biden's boost. The reason Biden turned around so well from Nevada to South Carolina/Super Tuesday was because of the media. They blew his win in SC way out of proportion. I mean, Bernie won by similar margins in Nevada, and what media coverage did he get? Nothing. The media does a lot to shape a person's political views, whether they think about it consciously or not. The reason why Biden's doing so well is because the media has told people that Biden's the most electable candidate, and so, they vote for him.

3. Establishment Democrats - Look, there's no denying that establishment democrats don't want Bernie to win. Bernie poses an existential threat to the establishment that many people fear. I don't think they're rigging votes or anything like that, but I do think they're putting as much money and resources behind Biden as much as possible. You've got sooo  many establishment/corporate dems supporting Joe, and that's not a coincidence. This, combined with the media narrative, makes people want to vote for Biden, and hey, while I disagree with it, I can't necessarily fault people for believing them.

4. Electability - This goes along with the media narrative. At this point, people just want to vote for the most "electable" candidate. I, for one, have completely disagreed with the notion that Biden's the most electable, but the majority of people don't see it that way. Biden, being a moderate, has people thinking that because he's not as "radical" as Bernie, he's more likely to get votes in the Senate and work with Republicans. Personally, I don't see it that way. The parties are so polarized at this point that it doesn't matter if we nominate Biden or Bernie, Republicans don't want to work with us. It's just that simple. That said, many people don't see it that way. 

I know plenty of trump voters who would vote for Biden in the general election that would never in a million years vote for Bernie.   That’s the difference in this election cycle.  Voters understand we aren’t just voting for policy changes.  We are voting to save the heart of America.  If we don’t have that, nothing else matters.   

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