Why can’t we criticise Stupid Love?

[Animal Claws 18,665]

Just now, BetrayedSTAN said:

The songs she released in 2010/2011 stood the test of time and aged like fine wine while SL aged like milk even before getting a proper release.. 

 

I have to say again: We're in 2020

Go stream TFM and BTW if you're bothered

Let the people enjoy the song.

[geusst1235 5,398]

On 3/9/2020 at 6:19 PM, Bobbins said:

The song is dramatically falling on all streaming avenues. It’s not clicking with the GP and I knew the instant I heard it I disliked it too. It’s noisy and overproduced and the sound is dated. How is Gaga listening to all these amazing female artists on her playlist (who all sound like the future of pop music) and came up with something dated like SL?

The video also disappointed a lot of people. From being a visual powerhouse artist to a poorly made video in the desert with an alien theme which has been done dozens of time before. The editing, choreography, face accessory are all executed poorly for the video. This is the same woman who made the Bad Romance video. KPop music videos in general take a dump over all of Gaga’s video between Joanne and Stupid Love. 

Snippets of the song have also been online since last year and nothing was done about it. Her team are amateurs. You know why ASIB and TFM smashed so hard? She had a professional team behind those eras who helped her execute everything to a professional level and didn’t feed her ego. I just don’t know what else to say except she needs to move onto the 2nd single. 

I truly don't see how a top 5 debut for Stupid Love is a "flop" in any fashion. Gaga achieved this feat with a leaked song and zero performances/1 interview to promote it so far. Sure you dislike Stupid Love (which is fine) however complaining about the sound being dated is quite absurd since its literally meant to have a bit of more retro pop sound. For example, the synths legitimately have a very apparent and purposeful 80s quality/feeling to them. The song has received acclaim practically everywhere as well, aside from a very vocal minority.

The overwhelming majority of people enjoyed the video so let's not downplay or degrade everyone else's appreciation for it. Now, the Iphone can be a tad more difficult to work with, but they were clearly able to pull off decent CGI/editing anyways. You also have to factor in how many VFX artists were working on this, how much post production time they had, budget, did they "lock in" their VFX shots on set,etc. Either way, it was clearly meant to be fun and campy with some 80s/90s Sci-Fi flair. You may dislike the direction in which her creativity has evolved and where it is taking her, but she is still unequivocally being very creative.

Gaga could absolutely create something in the same vein as the Bad Romance video or any other works of art she has created throughout her career, however I don't see why she should obsess over something like that. It is much more fulfilling from a artistic standpoint to genuinely make material that gives the viewer something they weren't expecting (the Stupid Love video) that may come off as wacky or strange, perhaps even divisive,etc. That uh particular iteration of Gaga's creative expression certainly isn't gone considering she literally came up with the concept in the first place. She can definitely go back to creating things in that specific fashion, but why go backwards? 

This is the same team that helped catapult her into arguably the most successful era of her career, stop exaggerating. This team also knows Gaga's limits and do not constantly overwork her, which is way more important than any chart, promo,etc.

On 3/9/2020 at 6:25 PM, Bobbins said:

The thing is this site has turned into a kind of cult. We can’t criticise Gaga anymore even though we do it out of the admiration for her art. It’s ridiculous. The song and video are not good full stop and I’m not gonna feed her delusion by saying it’s good. If I was on her team I would directly tell her this but she would probably fire me. That’s probably why her team don’t speak out. I don’t know who thought this dated mess would click with the new generation of young people. 

I'd just like to preface this by saying that the people who are sharing their opinions or critiques in a mature manner are obviously fine. Now, there is a difference between expressing an opinion in a mature manner (like some people are) and spouting overtly negative criticisms all the time. There are users here who leave comments disliking anything that Gaga does, usually with condescending undertones anytime they get a chance to. It is incredibly redundant vitrol that is not needed here.

On 3/9/2020 at 6:50 PM, BetrayedSTAN said:

I was not exited since the day we found out that bloodpop is the main producer.. so i was not surprised the first time I heard stupid love .. 

I mean the song is really really basic and it's a shame that we consider it as a masterpiece when we had songs like badromance/DITD/MTN etc .. 

I wish i have the power to delete it forever from gaga's discography. 

 

Just because you dislike a song, does not mean that it should be removed from her discography.

[JustTea 5,906]

45 minutes ago, Bobbins said:

The thing is this site has turned into a kind of cult. We can’t criticise Gaga anymore even though we do it out of the admiration for her art. It’s ridiculous. The song and video are not good full stop and I’m not gonna feed her delusion by saying it’s good. If I was on her team I would directly tell her this but she would probably fire me. That’s probably why her team don’t speak out. I don’t know who thought this dated mess would click with the new generation of young people. 

Song is good and radio friendly, pre-chorus is amazing. Chorus is a bit noisy/loud imo. But video is still better than BTW/TEOG/PI/MR

[HausOfG 1,560]

I guess y'all will just have to unstan  and go to a doo leepo fansite 

[RenegAde 19,137]

17 minutes ago, Chris Martin said:

the steaming numbers don't lie

the YouTube numbers don't lie

the AM numbers don't lie

the worldwide TANKING numbers don't lie

So I think it's pretty obvious for you that this song is not working in every single way

It's doing better than expected on YouTube, try again

[xoxo Craig 55,649]

You can, but why would you want to criticize a masterpiece? 

[xoxo Craig 55,649]

Also, the song is performing really well so its clear the GP love it too

[SEXODUS 5,927]

We can and we should.

[Salvador Sequea 813]

MadonnaNation is winning 

[PUKKIE 457]

BEEEEEENNN SAYING. the hate I received in this cult sure. My thread got deleted.. Etc etc. 

[Killa 17,461]

Dont start now may be almost fantastic, those kpop videos may be pop  perfection, even the weeknd may have earworm music with great production

What they all dont have is personality. It just doesnt reflect in the product. I agree the song plus video is shaky but it comes through. For ex that awful song the box is very shaky itself. 

Hollow music for hollow minds. Im happy that theres always some of her soul. And its enough, im sure this is a deja vu. Haters be seething cause she pulled a top 10....

[Suuus 5,632]

6 minutes ago, BetrayedSTAN said:

The songs she released in 2010/2011 stood the test of time and aged like fine wine while SL aged like milk even before getting a proper release.. 

 

How can you that stupid love aged  like milk when its only been out for a week LoL

[BetrayedSTAN 1,839]

5 minutes ago, Animal Claws said:

I have to say again: We're in 2020

Go stream TFM and BTW if you're bothered

Let the people enjoy the song.

You're acting like I'm covering ur ears to stop u from enjoying the song lol .. 

Also MUSIC IS TIMELESS .PERIOD .

And i'm sure SL can't relate .

Hope the album is nothing like this .. 

[Regina George 59,387]

I honestly don't even know why some of you ''stan'' Lady Gaga.. 

[Magui 2,628]

10 minutes ago, dit said:

I REALLY dislike the song and music video but I want it to succeed and I make sure I always mention that to balance out negativity  because I know so many on here genuinly adore the song and I don't ever want to be a party pooper or to rain on someone's parade. I think ppl appreciate that and would rather have balanced posts. It's ok to criticize as long as you do not insult ppl who love the song as having "bad taste / no taste" or say that the song is complete "trash" etc..when you know Gaga spent so much time, love, effort and money on it. That said I HATE when ppl act like online cops and attack ppl who have a differing opinion. If you do not like a criticism you need to move on and not attack ppl who hate or dislike Stupid Love.

I respect your opinion, but  i really don't see how this will change on this site. Once while sharing some thoughts with people here about this stuff, i mention that when i don't like something, even something regarding other artists i take care with my words cause a lot of other people like that song or movie. Plus, more important, as you stated it's the time, the effort, the money, the work of the artist... at least respect that. There's no balance posts, when people come for some else work with words like trash and other worse things.