pie-kun 1,765 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 another question they'll be counting streaming for every single video that has the song on it or only the ones from official channels like vevo? Every single one. Harlem Shake would have not gone #1 were it not for 30 second meme videos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake 0 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 In a way I like it. I lost faith in radio once it started spinning songs no one was buying. C'mon is top 10 on pop right now and out of the top 30 on iTunes. YouTube is a more accurate reflection of what people actually want to hear, especially if they're factoring all videos of the song. I do think radio should count more though. Harlem Shake going number 1 with half the sales of Thrift Shop and no airplay is very unfair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 i'm so confused how do the views convert into points? i'd assume something like 100k = 1 ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon 5 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 All these little changes and readjustments of the rules over the past year are just confusing and unnecessary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy 4,421 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 That new Billboard rule is so It's good for Gaga but it's still insanly stupid to see Harlem Shake at #1 This means Rebecca Black would have been #1 for 2 weeks, Gangnam style would have been #1 for 2 months, etc. Basicly a singing gorillaz could be #1 now, or a total unknown fat lady who goes viral could do hit too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 All these little changes and readjustments of the rules over the past year are just confusing and unnecessary. Totally, it just seems so messy. Whereas here in the UK it's JUST sales But I don't like that model much either, songs don't typically have a very long shelf life at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy8923 9 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Well, YT is more accurate and a better reflection of public taste than radio. So I suppose it's an improvement and perhaps this way there's less room for label corruption. I mean, yes, a label can pay for views as well but it's less common than paying for radio airplay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick4bty 2,758 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Well, YT is more accurate and a better reflection of public taste than radio. So I suppose it's an improvement and perhaps this way there's less room for label corruption. I mean, yes, a label can pay for views as well but it's less common than paying for radio airplay. I disagree, wholeheartedly. Anyone can click on a video and have it play in the background just to get a view. Stanbases already do it, especially ones for acts like JB, 1D, etc. Not to mention their fans fawn over their videos. What 13 year old girls like does not equal a reflection in public taste. Payola doesn't happen. We all joke about it, but it doesn't. Radio deals certainly do, but only to get the songs out there being heard. Once their heard, it's up to public reaction and audience numbers whether the song is smashing or flopping. BB's continuing to discount radio is a very bad thing, and counting EVERY single video that's on YT of a single song is complete nonsense. They literally just handed a #1 to Baauer, and now he's far and ahead of Thrift Shop and the others, all because of some lousy, overdone, 30-second parody videos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANNOGABANG 4 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I don't think one post could convey my disappointed expression on this matter so I'm posting for a 2nd time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Although I disagree with this.......Harlem Shake was the biggest song in the U.S this past week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick4bty 2,758 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I don't think one post could convey my disappointed expression on this matter so I'm posting for a 2nd time. Don't worry. I've posted at least 5 times already. Although I disagree with this.......Harlem Shake was the biggest song in the U.S this past week. Depends on how you look at it. I don't like Thrift Shop, and I hate the fact that it was #1, but it deserved it. It's huge on radio and huge in downloads. And streaming. lol. Thrift Shop is literally #1 because people keep doing dumb videos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherry 17 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 @thehausofcherry: @bwerde Out of curiosity, was this rule change inspired by the PSY/Maroon 5 fiasco last fall? @bwerde: @thehausofcherry no. That was more example of why it's the right rule. But been talking to YouTube for almost 2 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommymonster44 0 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Although I disagree with this.......Harlem Shake was the biggest song in the U.S this past week. I disagree. Buzz started to form around Harlem Shake this week. It's hardly the most influential song out there at the moment. The initial spark occurred this week, but Thrift shop was still more popular. Thrift shop was streamed more, purchased twice as much, and garnered about 100 times more airplay than HS. The only category that HS won was youtube views. It's obvious that Thrift Shop was still the larger song. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherry 17 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I disagree. Buzz started to form around Harlem Shake this week. It's hardly the most influential song out there at the moment. The initial spark occurred this week, but Thrift shop was still more popular. Thrift shop was streamed more, purchased twice as much, and garnered about 100 times more airplay than HS. The only category that HS won was youtube views. It's obvious that Thrift Shop was still the larger song. But which song was more talked about and more popular (popularity goes beyond radio and sales)? I'm starting to see where BB was going with this. That new Billboard rule is so It's good for Gaga but it's still insanly stupid to see Harlem Shake at #1 This means Rebecca Black would have been #1 for 2 weeks, Gangnam style would have been #1 for 2 months, etc. Basicly a singing gorillaz could be #1 now, or a total unknown fat lady who goes viral could do hit too. I doubt Rebecca Black would have been #1, and "Gangnam Style" deserved to be #1 considering it was easily the most popular song in the country for 2 months or however long it was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommymonster44 0 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 But which song was more talked about and more popular (popularity goes beyond radio and sales)? I'm starting to see where BB was going with this. I think it's important to distinguish the difference between buzz and actual popularity. Buzz involves people talking about, interacting, and consuming a song. It is the initial spark that lights the song. If buzz is maintained and escalates over a course of time, then a song has obtained popularity. The point of Billboard, as I see it, has always been to digest what's popular. About a month ago Thrift Shop had a lot of buzz but zero popularity. Everyone was talking about it, but nobody admired the song. As buzz around it continued for a few weeks, the song song became popular. Harlem Shake is currently in the buzz stage. It will take at least a week or so before that actually equates into the song being popular. Or, in other words, it will take some time before people transfer from the discovering stage (buzz) to the supportive stage (popularity). This can be backed up by the fact that Thrift Shop sold 400K while Harlem Shake only sold 200K. Yes, HS was the most talked about song this week, but the numbers show that TS was still the most popular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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