VforVendetta 2,024 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I dont think Gaga should do double releases. Her eras are always so orchestrated around 1 single at a time. This! :worship: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klou 2,414 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 LoveGame was released in the US first with success, so Interscope saw that as a sign to release it elsewhere as well. It ended up basically flopping outside North America and it never got that sales surge from a video release either, so the double release isn't always a good idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magoo 6 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 BB Hot 100 calculations for the week based on all 7 days of itunes bars, mediabase airplay and a streaming estimate. It's tricky this week to estimate because need to guess the sales elevation due to the gift card effect, and what the calculation is as a result. If the sales, airplay and streaming are multiplied by fixed factors and added, then sales will dominate; but it is likely that there are only so many points for each of sales, airplay and streaming to divide out. The figures below are based on having overall contributions to the Hot 100 of Sales 41%, airplay 41%, streaming 18%, so the higher sales from the gift card just results in a lower multiplier. The result is not that much change in the positions of the top songs. I could be completely wrong of course. #position, sales (000's) + Mediabase airplay (A.I. millions) + streaming (Ks x 10%) = points, artist, song, (change on Hot 100) #1 485 + 198 +109 = 467 Bruno Mars LOOH (=) #2 355 + 187 +105 = 403 Rihanna Diamonds (=) #3 303 + 150 + 92 = 335 The Lumineers Ho Hey (=) #4 575 + 92 + 0 = 320 Taylor Swift IKYWT (=) #5 371 + 102 + 70 = 297 Justin Bieber ft Minaj BAAB (=) #6 234 + 140 + 68 = 282 Maroon 5 One More Night (+1) #7 297 + 98 + 86 = 274 Ke$ha Die Young (-1) #8 269 + 108 + 63 = 259 Phillip Phillips Home (+1) #9 215 + 123 + 66 = 256 Flo Rida I Cry (-1) #10 306 + 37 +102 = 224 Mackelmore & Lewis Thrift Shop (=) #11 194 + 95 + 69 = 220 Fun. Some Nights (+3) #12 214 + 76 + 71 = 209 Swedish House Mafia DYWC (-1) #13 388 + 9 + 73 = 208 PSY Gangnam Style (+6) #14 186 + 88 + 62 = 205 Ed Sheeran The A Team (+3) #15 231 + 76 + 52 = 203 Alecia Keys GOF (+1) #16 281 + 51 + 53 = 197 will.i.am ft Britney S&S (-4) #17 185 + 98 + 28 = 193 P!nk Try (-4) #18 127 + 110 + 41 = 192 Ne-Yo LMLY (-3) #19 159 + 57 + 82 = 175 Imagine Dragons It's Time (-1) #20 167 + 57 + 75 = 173 Kendrick Lamar Sw.Pools (=) #21 236 + 34 + 61 = 167 Taylor Swift WANEGBT (+8) #22 159 + 49 + 64 = 155 Kanye West + Jay Z Clique (+1) #23 203 + 46 + 38 = 152 Florida Georgia Line Cruise (-1) #24 103 + 67 + 48 = 142 Alex Clare Too Close (+4) #25 162 + 44 + 49 = 141 Justin Bieber ALAYLM (+10) *points = 39% x sales/K + 105% x Mediabase airplay (A.I. millions) + 6.5% x on demand streaming/K What changes there are are mostly favouring older songs Approx this week's sales for Gaga: PF 12.2 K, BR 9.8K; JD 9.3K; BTW 9.2K; TEOG 9.1K; Y+I 7.2K (elevated about 3x by gift cards). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 On the topic of Japanese markets, I'm glad they've taken so much a liking towards her. They're usually pretty cool with any international artists, but (at least for a while) I haven't seen any international star there grow as domestically prevalent as Gaga. Imagine You And I being a US single and Scheibe being a Europe single. So many fights.... I remember a lot of discussion of this around last summer, about Yoü and I's single release. Was that the original plan? My original thought was that: Yoü and I would do decent in the US (obviously), Scheiße would do awesome in Europe, and if it did well enough it would bleed over onto a US release. But that seemed too risky and difficult to promote, especially a Yoü and I/Scheiße co-promotional tour, so idk. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klou 2,414 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I remember a lot of discussion of this around last summer, about Yoü and I's single release. Was that the original plan? My original thought was that: Yoü and I would do decent in the US (obviously), Scheiße would do awesome in Europe, and if it did well enough it would bleed over onto a US release. But that seemed too risky and difficult to promote, especially a Yoü and I/Scheiße co-promotional tour, so idk. Yeah, if Scheisse did well, they would have released it in the US as well. It's pointless and usually not worth it to the label for the extra work and investment, so may as well just focus on one at a time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake 0 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Those Christmas sales :cry: I hope ARTPOP has a hit to benifit from them next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudasInTheDark 3 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I hope ARTPOP has a hit to benifit from them next year. I'm sure it will. AT LEAST the lead single. All of Gaga's lead singles do amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klou 2,414 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 C'mon - #251 It's risen over 100 spots the past week. It may surprise us :bleh: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake 0 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Come on C'mon! :excited: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,405 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 So many thoughtful and interesting discussions within the last couple of pages. I agree! I also agree with the notion that the Internet has only increased US pop culture onto other world markets. But the same can be said about foreign pop culture onto the American market. I doubt Adele would have reached American radio were it not for her emergence on the Internet during the first quarter of 2011. Also, Gangnam Style? The playing field is stabilizing little by little.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavymlover 340 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I guess my point wasn't clear. The US is the biggest market, nobody doubts that. But you do need international success in order to become an icon. Why is this applied to Taylor Swift and not to Gaga? Because, even though Taylor is a huge local act, people don't know about her in many countries around the world, and she doesn't have any tour power outside the US. Gaga, on the other side, is a strong act in the US, but is also one of the biggest tour forces right now worldwide. It's not about having chart success, but cultural relevancy and being able of touring other continents with a decent success. Nobody denies Taylor's success, but she'll never be considered a pop icon in places where people have barely heard her name. We shouldn't ignore international markets nor underestimate the US market. They both complement each other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudasInTheDark 3 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I'm starting to think I was wrong. C'mon's gonna be a hit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Even if C'mon is a hit, it won't have as much success as Die Young. And even Die Young wasn't that successful. It was just a hit, not a smash hit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudasInTheDark 3 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Even if C'mon is a hit, it won't have as much success as Die Young. And even Die Young wasn't that successful. It was just a hit, not a smash hit. This is what I meant. I don't think it will #1 by any stretch, just not a flop as I had earlier predicted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorPrince 1 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 The Edge Of Glory 8.991 +0.986 :spin: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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