Ozzy8923 9 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Starships peaked at #5 Oops! I'll edit it. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 Nicki Minaj is a mess in every way possible, not surprised. And "worldwide" singles. Give me a break, half of the world has no idea who she is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy8923 9 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Red is Urban singles Pink is Pop/WW singles. She planed it out from the start seeing as half is pop and the other is rap. Think darling. Forgot to tell you that a new rap song (most likely to go to urban radio) is gonna be preformed at the AMA's Sis, I'm sorry but all these single releases HAD me confused as ****. The thing is, WHY with PTA (seeing as it is only the second single sent to Pop) performing so poorly (it should of gone AT LEAST Top 10 on Pop and the Hot 100 seeing as it is a very commercial song) would they release ANOTHER single to Pop?! Bad decision making. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Lam 597 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Nicki Minaj and Rihanna last eras were TOTAL mess. What annoys me is that if Gaga had this type of era everybody would jump on her and screams that she's dead. Gaga standard for a "fail" are so much easier to achieve for the general public. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Nicki Minaj and Rihanna last eras were TOTAL mess. What annoys me is that if Gaga had this type of era everybody would jump on her and screams that she's dead. Gaga standard for a "fail" are so much easier to achieve for the general public. Gaga could get a #11 peak single during ARTPOP and "her career would be over" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausofmike 127 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Gaga could get a #11 peak single during ARTPOP and "her career would be over" MTN peaked at #29 tho... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 MTN peaked at #29 tho... I know that. :huh: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon 5 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 MTN peaked at #29 tho... And now the stan community acts like Gaga is dead and the public no longer remembers her or her work lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 And now the stan community acts like Gaga is dead and the public no longer remembers her or her work lol. The tour/fragrance success covered up MTN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Lam 597 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Yet people are amazed by Taylor debut (and they should be) but they forgot BTW album debut was as big ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommymonster44 0 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I've always found it difficult to get my head around how different the US charts are from the UK ones in the way that songs chart. In America, a song debuting at #1 is rare and as such, it's a huge deal and considered a massive honour to achieve. In the UK, a song debuting at #1 is as normal as day turns to night. In fact, fans tend to worry when a song doesn't debut at #1, for it's unlikely to get there in the coming weeks. That happened to BTW. Also, in America, a song can take weeks and weeks to get to #1, likely due to the massive population, massive amounts of radio stations accounting for the public taking a while to really let the song soak into their consciousness, hence why some songs can take well over a month before reaching the top. WFL is one of Rihanna's biggest hits and it took six weeks to get to #1 in the US and the same was true for a lot of Katy Perry's singles. In the UK, you just don't get that. If your song hasn't hit #1 within three weeks, max, it's not going to. In America, they seem content with just having the same songs in the top 40 for a long, long time because of the reasons stated above and don't seem to get bored of always seeing the same old charts. In the UK, the public is always starving for new tracks, so our top 40 is rarely the same for weeks on end, particularly because there's so many one hit wonders who get off to a great start then drop like a stone, only to be replaced by the next one hit wonder. It took me a long time to realise all this, though. It would always annoy me when my least favourite artists would get #1 after #1 in the US even though their single was released, like, two months ago, so I thought their chance of a #1 was long past and then, boom! #1 well after the song has gotten stale in the rest of the world. For that, I always feel like the US is really behind the rest of the world's music tastes. They take forever to come round to a song that's been a worldwide hit and they have the same songs that dominate on radio for weeks until they slowly disperse. These new Billboard rules are awful. Radio will keep the most generic crap on repeat play so the country can't get over it. I can only imagine the airplay LMFAO would have gotten had their singles been around after this rule was put in place. It is very interesting how the U.S. is the oddball out in the music charting world. Every other major music market besides us judges how popular a song is by how many people buy it. We are basically the only market that recognizes airplay when determining how popular a song is. Not only that, we recognize airplay as the most important music judging platform. How well a song does on the radio is even more important than it's sales. I basically agree with your reasons as to why our charts move as slow as they do. My two cents is that they are always so stale compared to other markets because ours has such a large mass. It's not like it's just a few popular radio stations that roll out a song, it's over 1,000 stations. Obviously, your going to have to wait several weeks before all the stations decide to either support or reject a song. To the bold part of your post, I have to say that you do get used to our method of charting if you follow it. A lot of times you can predict how a single will be performing at it peak months before it happens if you know how to read the US charts. Half of it is a guess and wait game, though. As a chart-observing, the US chart is both more interesting and less interesting than the UK chart at the same time. On one hand, it's interesting to follow a song over the course of a few months and refine predictions day by day. It's more of a game, in that sense. UK charts are a lot more predictable and their fast moving nature just isn't interesting to follow a song on, tbh. On the other hand, the US chart do get stale really quickly and it's often boring hearing about the same old songs that your hate day after day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtia 13 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Yet people are amazed by Taylor debut (and they should be) but they forgot BTW album debut was as big ! Don't forget that she sold so much because of Amazon :hor: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo 326 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Sis, I'm sorry but all these single releases HAD me confused as ****. The thing is, WHY with PTA (seeing as it is only the second single sent to Pop) performing so poorly (it should of gone AT LEAST Top 10 on Pop and the Hot 100 seeing as it is a very commercial song) would they release ANOTHER single to Pop?! Bad decision making. Bb, I was just like you after she released PTA. WEell because she's a rapper at heart. They don't promote very much. Only when the album is gonna drop. She didn't promote at all with Super Bass. And it would have got a top 10 but all thee other people had albums coming out around that time so of course their debut would be played more than someone else's. All and all if she promoted it would have. But VVV is already 47 a day after its release here. So I'm looking forward to how it will chart. And if she did promo for the boys it wouldn't have been at #104. Her problem is promo. :giveup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommymonster44 0 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Bb, I was just like you after she released PTA. WEell because she's a rapper at heart. They don't promote very much. Only when the album is gonna drop. She didn't promote at all with Super Bass. And it would have got a top 10 but all thee other people had albums coming out around that time so of course their debut would be played more than someone else's. All and all if she promoted it would have. But VVV is already 47 a day after its release here. So I'm looking forward to how it will chart. And if she did promo for the boys it wouldn't have been at #104. Her problem is promo. I personally think that the Roman Reloaded era was messy because she had absolutely no focus in it. Are you a rapper Nicki or are you a pop star? She seemed to think that if you throw in a few rap songs and then a few pop songs, you could be both. To me, that just divided the album and therefore the fan base. It's almost like she took a knife to the CD and split it in two, throwing one half to pop fans and the other to her rap followers. This just didn't make sense to me. I'll be impressed if she comes back with an elegant way to fuse the two genres like she did in Pink Friday. I'm not praying for another Roman Reloaded. Don't know if AP, but No Doubt news: BTW the next @nodoubt single is #LookingHot will be hitting US Radio Soon— Interscope Promotion (@INTERSCOPEPROMO) September 19, 2012 Looking hot is the new single. Not sure how I feel about this. It's one of the best tracks on the album, but I feel that One More Summer would have been better suited for the radio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANNOGABANG 4 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Nicki Minaj is a mess in every way possible, not surprised. And "worldwide" singles. Give me a break, half of the world has no idea who she is. I don't mind Nicki. She makes fun music. I'm here for Va Va Voom . Just recently found about it. Guess I'll jump on the ''why the **** isn't it being released earlier'' bandwagon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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