OMonster 14,675 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, coolninjaguy said: PERRIODDD i honestly fail to understand how some people find the time of day to waste on this meaningless stuff. She's a multimillionaire, it's okay to love and support her but unhealthily obsessing over her getting a #1 just seems so toxic. You're totally right, and focusing on charts is a losing game - because, ultimately, Gaga or any artist can never win a game that's based on popularity. Popularity is fleeting. It's not a metric to measure anything by because it's so forever changing. Like, even getting a #1 for a week means 'nothing' when - eventually - every #1 song has to disappear, you know? SUCCESS isn't about charts. Success is about longevity and output. Gaga is back releasing a full body of work that's for her fans. She's over a decade into her career, and she's still doing that. She's also a multi-millionaire, has overcome so much pain and trouble in her life, is spreading joy and happiness and is lifting the world - and her fans - with music that she puts her life and soul into. THAT'S success. And that's what matters. subtext / fantasy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSunset 204 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 24 minutes ago, coolninjaguy said: umm maybe there's better things to do in life then obsessing over how many streams the worlds biggest star gets? she did commercially worse then katy during ARTPOP yet look at their career trajectories. Obsessing?Girl It is not just about numbers she's making a comeback -a pop comeback because that's what her fans wanted- the least we could do is stream and show our support and gratitude towards her.Plus this is the first single of the album the more it debuts higher the better.For both the album and next singles success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyxGaGa 1,955 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 y is it on next week charts tho? i thought with her debuting last friday she would have charted this week? didn’t born this way debut around friday and I thought it had charted after she performed at the grammy’s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolninjaguy 1,239 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Nebula said: Obsessing?Girl It is not just about numbers she's making a comeback -a pop comeback because that's what her fans wanted- the least we could do is stream and show our support and gratitude towards her.Plus this is the first single of the album the more it debuts higher the better.For both the album and next singles success. "the least we could do is show our support and gratitude" - but we did support and show gratitude to her by listening to the song. we don't owe her anything just like she doesn't owe us anything. i love stupid love but im not going to sit around and obsessively stream, and for what? her getting a #1 or not doesn't solidify whether this is a "pop comeback or not" this is her comeback regardless. Also this is not 2013, a higher debut does not mean anything if the song is out of the top 10 it's about longevity and organic growth of a song nowadays. The album will go #1 regardless. Most of the gp does not care about charts and it's just unhealthy to set these expectations for yourself and then get mad at gaga/yourself/other fans when things don't go as planned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster647 407 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 When does bb hot100 get released ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyxGaGa 1,955 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 24 minutes ago, coolninjaguy said: "the least we could do is show our support and gratitude" - but we did support and show gratitude to her by listening to the song. we don't owe her anything just like she doesn't owe us anything. i love stupid love but im not going to sit around and obsessively stream, and for what? her getting a #1 or not doesn't solidify whether this is a "pop comeback or not" this is her comeback regardless. Also this is not 2013, a higher debut does not mean anything if the song is out of the top 10 it's about longevity and organic growth of a song nowadays. The album will go #1 regardless. Most of the gp does not care about charts and it's just unhealthy to set these expectations for yourself and then get mad at gaga/yourself/other fans when things don't go as planned. okay but what’s the point of a comeback if u aren’t on top. isn’t that what made The Emancipation of Mimi so grand? was that mariah carey literally hit rock bottom and then bounced back bigger and better than ever? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSunset 204 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, coolninjaguy said: "the least we could do is show our support and gratitude" - but we did support and show gratitude to her by listening to the song. we don't owe her anything just like she doesn't owe us anything. i love stupid love but im not going to sit around and obsessively stream, and for what? her getting a #1 or not doesn't solidify whether this is a "pop comeback or not" this is her comeback regardless. Also this is not 2013, a higher debut does not mean anything if the song is out of the top 10 it's about longevity and organic growth of a song nowadays. The album will go #1 regardless. Most of the gp does not care about charts and it's just unhealthy to set these expectations for yourself and then get mad at gaga/yourself/other fans when things don't go as planned. Chile maam i'm not mad about anything.But if a song was seen as a potential top 3 debut at first then predicted to be not even in top 5 debut , yes it is because of fans since it didn't have a GP suport to begin with.Also charts never lost their importance the higher it debuts the more it will get attention and will be promoted by streaming services. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanxDream 2,049 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Monster647 said: When does bb hot100 get released ? I think they usually reveal the Top 10 on Mondays, then the rest of the chart a couple days later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klou 2,414 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 22 hours ago, Ryusei said: Why is the crackhead chart thread talking about top 3 then Wait for Monday to come and let’s reassess your comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0436 10,215 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 #5 in the UK officially, so let’s hope for a top5 in the US to get the double victory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolninjaguy 1,239 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, Nebula said: Chile maam i'm not mad about anything.But if a song was seen as a potential top 3 debut at first then predicted to be not even in top 5 debut , yes it is because of fans since it didn't have a GP suport to begin with.Also charts never lost their importance the higher it debuts the more it will get attention and will be promoted by streaming services. again only fans predicted it to be number #3 or whatever position. again an unhealthy obsession that set your own self up for disappointment. why would i be mad? i remain unbothered and find this kind of stuff childish... how does gaga's songs position define you as a person. there's more important things and achievements to strive for in life then a trivial billboard chart position, chile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSunset 204 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 22 minutes ago, coolninjaguy said: again only fans predicted it to be number #3 or whatever position. again an unhealthy obsession that set your own self up for disappointment. why would i be mad? i remain unbothered and find this kind of stuff childish... how does gaga's songs position define you as a person. there's more important things and achievements to strive for in life then a trivial billboard chart position, chile. I said chile because you are trying to give me life lessons in essay sized paragraphs. You are taking this way too deep literally nowhere i said that charts are everything nor that it defines me as a person. I gave my reasoning and i think i explained it well if you don't agree that's ok there's no need to continue over this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolninjaguy 1,239 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 4 hours ago, LadyxGaGa said: okay but what’s the point of a comeback if u aren’t on top. isn’t that what made The Emancipation of Mimi so grand? was that mariah carey literally hit rock bottom and then bounced back bigger and better than ever? Gaga already had a comeback with ASIB... not every era is going to a comeback. it's very anti-gaga of you to say all of that for someone who just said that we owe it to her to stream her music- that implies that you are streaming her music because you missed her and love her but now you're questioning the point of gaga even putting her hard work/time into making music if it doesn't fulfill your "comeback" expectations. honestly i'm not even going to argue with this bc this is the exact reason gaga has distanced herself from this fanbase. and please don't cite mariah, gaga's a bigger cultural icon in multiple industries at this point of her career to need an emanicipation of mimi moment, thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creyk 17,817 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 It's official: we have failed her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose P 23,341 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 All of you just STFU already. Bitching about a f*cking top 5 placement is insane. Enjoy the goddamn era and stop whining about not being #1 for the love of god. The song is doing great, not everything will be a Shallow or BR kind of hit, especially when Gaga has been around for over a decade now. She’s doing great, not being #1 isn’t a fail at all. For f*ck’s sake I don’t even want to imagine how bad this site was when Perfect Illusion came out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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