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RenegAde

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She's popular and has a voice that can go with lots of tracks. Her aesthetic also works for Chromatica.
I don't care for her, but it's undeniable. 

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Divine
6 minutes ago, Floppy said:

It's funny because Gaga just admitted to being pretentious herself and called herself out for it. :giggle: The way little complainers constantly lose. 

This. Funny how a lot of those lil complainers romanticize Gaga as a whole without considering the fact that Gaga doesn't want to be romanticized due to the fact that she admits her own imperfections and mistakes  in her artistry. Tbh, she's okay with that cuz she wants to be raw and real and far away from being seen as perfect "musically". 

"And I still love you even if I can't see you anymore."
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JusKeepBreathin
1 hour ago, RenegAde said:

Okay she's pretty, cute vocals, a few hits here and there but does she deserve this ,i mean gaga has a long line of people on her collab waiting list . Why ariana ? Miley would have even been less of a suprise to me.  

Im so curious about that song and if it really exist, i want to know what gaga and ariana sound like together . i hope it's not one of them pop/trap tracks

 

Y'all keep trying to keep Ariana down and the more you guys do, the more she flourishes. 

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr.
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I agree with you but all things surrounded by ... pop music, trendy music, streaming, charts, sales

I love to see gaga in rock/country pop/rock vibes or ballad vibe like Elton John, queen, David bowie or Every stuff from A star is born

 

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RenegAde
16 minutes ago, Paparazzzzi said:

"You trying to sound smart and ended up going off point ..laughable"   applies to you  honestly :awkney:

 

The user clearly missed the jist of what a manufactured artist actually  means and you are supporting them. 

Anyway you and them can bask in your  incomprehension 

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RenegAde
12 minutes ago, Paparazzzzi said:

This. Funny how a lot of those lil complainers romanticize Gaga as a whole without considering the fact that Gaga doesn't want to be romanticized due to the fact that she admits her own imperfections and mistakes  in her artistry. Tbh, she's okay with that cuz she wants to be raw and real and far away from being seen as perfect "musically". 

You are actually contradicting yourself cuz no one said gaga is perfect dear 

It is  that raw and real aesthetic gaga has that sets her apart from manufactured popstars 

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RenegAde

Some stans are so insecure about their fav artist. You say the slightest thing and they start pouring their insecurties and ignorance at you .

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She has talent... that’s all I can say about her, stream Break Free and Stupid Love :staymad:

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Divine
Just now, RenegAde said:

You are actually contradicting yourself cuz no one said gaga is perfect dear 

It is  that raw and real aesthetic gaga has that sets her apart from manufactured popstars 

The thing is, you see "manufactured popstars" connotatively. You only accept the meaning of "manufactured popstars" based on your own understanding. You're being biased based on the level of your satisfaction with regards on how to define "manufactured popstars"

Dear, you're no genius too. Stop acting so entitled in terms of defining who is an artist/musician or an manufactured popstars  :awkney:

"And I still love you even if I can't see you anymore."
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RenegAde
Just now, Paparazzzzi said:

The thing is, you see "manufactured popstars" connotatively. You only accept the meaning of "manufactured popstars" based on your own understanding. You're being biased based on the level of your satisfaction with regards on how to define "manufactured popstars"

Dear, you're no genius too. Stop acting so entitled in terms of defining who is an artist/musician or an manufactured popstars  :awkney:

Okay chile , whatever

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Suuus
48 minutes ago, RenegAde said:

Gaga writes her music, she plays several instruments ,she is classically  trianed ,she is a creative force .she is 100% involved in the  process of creating her music. Some artist  are not .

Some popstars merely puts on the clothes and sing the songs  that they had no idea how they were created

That is the difference between a manufactured popstar and a musician/artiste .

You trying to sound smart and ended up going off point ..laughable 

And she probably ownes  her music

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1 hour ago, RenegAde said:

Gaga writes her music, she plays several instruments ,she is classically  trianed ,she is a creative force .she is 100% involved in the  process of creating her music. Some artist  are not .

Some popstars merely puts on the clothes and sing the songs  that they had no idea how they were created

That is the difference between a manufactured popstar and a musician/artiste .

You trying to sound smart and ended up going off point ..laughable 

Lmao you clearly have no idea how the music industry works don't you? There's a tendency to overcredit the popstar and not the cowriters and producers as the "talent" behind the "franchise."  Plenty of artists are credited on songs when they most likely just changed one word. I'm not saying that is the case for Gaga but come on, we both know she doesn't even produce her own beats (except Venus... ). The illusion of creative control is maintained by the fig leaf of a songwriting credit. The performer’s name will often appear in the list of songwriters, even if his or her contribution is negligible. (There’s a saying for this in the music industry: “Change a word, get a third.”) 

Gaga isn't the only one who is highly involved in the creative process, Doja Cat has been producing her own beats, she often livestreams her creative process on Instagram, same for Fka Twigs & Grimes, they both make their own beats. 

The production quality is crucial, too. The music is manufactured to fill not headphones and home stereo systems but malls and football stadiums. It is a synthetic, mechanical sound more captivating than the virtuosity of the musicians. This is a metaphor, of course. Every instrument is automated. Session musicians have gone extinct, and studio mixing boards remain only as retro, semi-ironic furniture.

The songs are written industrially as well, often by committee and in bulk. Anything short of a likely hit is discarded. The constant iteration of tracks, all produced by the same formula, can result in accidental imitation or, depending on the jury, purposeful replication. Gaga often does reunion meetings with Interscope to present them the music she's been working on, they're the ones who will have to decide if it deserves to be released . 

Also writing “top lines” (when a songwriter or group of songwriters is given a beat/instrumental to write for) has increasingly become more and more popular with more beats being produced than lyrics. Those songwriters are often the ones who come up with that hook/melody against that certain beat.

The music has evolved in step with these changes. A short-attention-span culture demands short-attention-span songs. 

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DeanWinchester
3 hours ago, gabrielflorin01 said:

Both Gaga and Ariana can sing SING SING and deliver bops :vegas:

 

3 hours ago, ReginaGeorge said:

What is a manufactured pop star? I don’t understand the concept. Ariana sings amazing songs and does whatever she wants to do with her music. She was pretty vocal about her wanting to release only few months after her previous album and she did. Only because a girl sings catchy pop songs and is successful at what she does doesn’t mean she is manufactured. ALSO let’s not even mention the fact that she truly has some AMAZING songs like God Is A Woman, Into You, Breathin’...

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