Defmix100 5,633 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 2 hours ago, FfFfFfFF said: Lyrics are useless if they don't create an enjoyable melody you just destroyed all of rap and half of Poker Face Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 54,014 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, Defmix100 said: you just destroyed all of rap and half of Poker Face There are rap songs with great melodies and PF has one too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defmix100 5,633 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, FfFfFfFF said: There are rap songs with great melodies and PF has one too. but what about the millions of rap songs with no melody but great lyrics? half the PF verses are all one note Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHALLOW 14,989 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 56 minutes ago, dancewithnobody said: It is too subjective, you need to start excepting other people's opinion If you read the other replies, you’ll notice i do respect other people’s opinions but i was just saying PI had its strong points and therefore SL isn’t better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defmix100 5,633 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 2 hours ago, FfFfFfFF said: Other than a key change, both songs follow the exact same standard pop structure One thing I do like about PI is they switch up the instrumental at the end so it feels like a different structure, kind of like the end of MTN (the best part) I think it would have been great to switch up at the end of SL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 54,014 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Defmix100 said: but what about the millions of rap songs with no melody but great lyrics? half the PF verses are all one note Rap is a whole different topic because those songs meant to be in many ways a protest and have that chatartic and societal element (I assume you are mostly talking about 90s rap). As a genre rap is meant to be spoken rather than sung - however even that is debatable, great rap songs do have nice melodies and instrumentals. PF chorus is a one note melody but not the verses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachinko 9,555 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Let's be real! Stupid Love is the gay version of Perfect Illusion. The straights didn't want her so now she's came back to us! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 54,014 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Just now, Defmix100 said: One thing I do like about PI is they switch up the instrumental at the end so it feels like a different structure, kind of like the end of MTN (the best part) I think it would have been great to switch up at the end of SL Stupid Love has harmonies and vocal chops added in the last chorus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defmix100 5,633 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, FfFfFfFF said: Rap is a whole different topic because those songs meant to be in many ways a protest and have that chatartic and societal element (I assume you are mostly talking about 90s rap). As a genre rap is meant to be spoken rather than sung - however even that is debatable, great rap songs do have nice melodies and instrumentals. PF chorus is a one note melody but not the verses. "I wanna hold 'em like they do in Texas, please Fold 'em, let 'em hit me, raise it, baby, stay with me... I wanna roll with him, a hard pair we will be A little gamblin' is fun when you're with me" these parts of the verses, only part of the chorus that's one note is p-p-p-poker face... Can't read my part is the most melodic of the entire song Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yes and 4,884 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, SHALLOW said: If you read the other replies, you’ll notice i do respect other people’s opinions but i was just saying PI had its strong points and therefore SL isn’t better Again, it's your opinion, and "the strong points" are not objective. If you don't like a song, it doesn't make it worse. Did you think I'd show up in a limousine? No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCanadian 305 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 You can't compare when you don't compete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 7 hours ago, M Monstre said: I don’t understand why people keep saying that SL has basic or cringey lyrics. They’re literally on the same level as most of her songs. The pre-chorus and the chorus, sure, are not particularly special. But that’s because it’s supposed to be a fun, upbeat dance pop song that you can just put on and dance to. The verses, though, actually are well written. I mean, y’all don’t criticize songs like Just Dance, Poker Face, or Telephone. I’d argue that those songs have the same level of lyricism as SL. I have said before that SL is functionally like Just Dance and it's meant to be a cute bop, nothing more. And that's okay. But even Just Dance has darker lyrics. It's literally about getting drunk to escape your problems and you feel yourself losing it but it's alright because for the night you can just dance and it'll be okay. And there's some irony in it. Stupid Love is much more direct. Again, I like Stupid Love. It just isn't the same lyrical quality as her other songs. Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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