Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 So the NY Times interviewed 93 superdelegates and Democratic elites and discovered (shockingly!!) they would be openly willing to risk damage to their own party and losing to Trump by stealing the nomination away from Bernie if it means keeping their grip on power over the Democratic Party Here's the article: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/us/politics/democratic-superdelegates.html And here's a video covering it all: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabeoz 7,915 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 The fight between establishment dems and progressives over the party is what will tear it apart. The establishment must let go, they’re doing much more harm than good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,649 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Dems are playing a dangerous game. I wish we had a true leftist party in the US. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 For anyone who understands that elites keeping and holding onto their power and access is more important than anything else will not be surprised by this Afterall, if Bernie is the nominee and wins all that is over for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,162 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Shocker! It's like establishment Democrats and Republicans come from the same place! This is why we need to elect Bernie. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildAmerican 13,672 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 I mean, I'm worried about nominating Bernie. It could potentially be a disaster for the party. But they should follow their own rules. If he gets a majority of the pledged delegates, it should be him, no question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rojo 560 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Let it be clear. They prefer to have Trump than Bernie for president. They are so gross. This is what their priorities are and its exactly why they need an overhaul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, WildAmerican said: I mean, I'm worried about nominating Bernie. It could potentially be a disaster for the party. But they should follow their own rules. If he gets a majority of the pledged delegates, it should be him, no question. This is about a plurality. So if he for example gets 1800/1991 needed. They would pick someone who got much less over him Not because of anything the voters want, but they would be inserting their own will over the voters and picking someone who possibly wasnt even in the primaries and who didn't even run. We've been saying this for MONTHS now on the left. The oh-so sacred Democratic party is NOT really resisting Trump. They are telling people "Yes, 4 more years of Trump is fine" Disgusting. "Democracy" is a joke. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildAmerican 13,672 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Just now, ItsTommyBitch said: This is about a plurality. So if he for example gets 1800/1991 needed. They would pick someone who got much less over him Not because of anything the voters want, but they would be inserting their own will over the voters and picking someone who possibly wasnt even in the primaries and who didn't even run. We've been saying this for MONTHS now on the left. The oh-so sacred Democratic party is NOT really resisting Trump. They are telling people "Yes, 4 more years of Trump is fine" Disgusting. Well that's obviously abhorrent. The person who gets a plurality should get it. They're digging their own grave if they subvert that will of the voters and give it to someone who has far less. What would probably end up happening would be a unity ticket would form of the delegate leader, and a 2nd or 3rd place finisher as VP. The person with the most should be at the top of the ticket though no matter what. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 minute ago, WildAmerican said: Well that's obviously abhorrent. The person who gets a plurality should get it. They're digging their own grave if they subvert that will of the voters and give it to someone who has far less. What would probably end up happening would be a unity ticket would form of the delegate leader, and a 2nd or 3rd place finisher as VP. The person with the most should be at the top of the ticket though no matter what. This article literally suggests crazy ideas like making Sherrod Brown the nominee, and making Michelle Obama or Kamala VP Again, it is clear that the fear of Bernie is not a loss, it is a victory. That they are willing to completely say **** you to a major portion of the electorate AND their own party (the left) and know it could result in major division, a loss, etc... It's not about Bernie losing based on some "oh they'll say hes a socialist!" down-ballot fear like they are saying in the media. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 6,697 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Trump was elected the first time because of this attitude to rob Bernie's nomination. They were so shocked and upset about Trump winning even though by splitting moderates from leftists, they made it possible. Looks like it might happen again... Stand in the light, cast your shadow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brizoda 4,176 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 They have rotten souls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetiteMonstre 69 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Both parties have way too much power and even mathematically speaking - ignoring Bernie's influence right now is downright sinister. If it were the other way around, there would have been serious calls for him to drop out if he was polling the way literally ANY other democratic nominee is right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilmonzter 2,864 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 All the signs point to a trump2020 tbh Atleast he won't change the status quo Sing C'est la vie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harris Walz 2024 1,451 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 The rules have been set and all parties agreed to them. You can't change them because you don't like the end result. The nerve of some people, I swear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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