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1 minute ago, ltlmnstr said:

And I think you’re lying because the end goal of Veganism is that everyone becomes Vegan.

It is essential to that way of life. It is undiverse and some cultures are not for everyone to share. Native Americans have closed cultures and warbonnets are not some quirky accessory. 

It’s a trend of here GGD that cultural appropriation is not taken seriously and it shows that Black hair is just “any old hairstyle” for everyone to wear when Black people are harassed for having those styles

I think you got the ulterior motive wrong. In the end, nobody can force anyone to do something, especially when it comes to diets... Ultimately, I don't see how the vegan movement is 'colonialism' or trying to destroy a certain style of cooking in certain cultures. You're looking at it through a very malicious lense which I think is the opposite of what these movements try to represent

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7 minutes ago, ltlmnstr said:

And I think you’re lying because the end goal of Veganism is that everyone becomes Vegan.

It is essential to that way of life. It is undiverse and some cultures are not for everyone to share. Native Americans have closed cultures and warbonnets are not some quirky accessory. 

It’s a trend of here GGD that cultural appropriation is not taken seriously and it shows that Black hair is just “any old hairstyle” for everyone to wear when Black people are harassed for having those styles

How do you know the goals of veganism if you're not vegan? Because that statement is false. 

Also, who's talking about cultural appropriation? We are talking diet.. 

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Just gonna leave this blog here, it's from the perspective of a dairy farmer worker

https://dairyisntscary.tumblr.com/

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5 minutes ago, kyanewest said:

I think you got the ulterior motive wrong. In the end, nobody can force anyone to do something, especially when it comes to diets... Ultimately, I don't see how the vegan movement is 'colonialism' or trying to destroy a certain style of cooking in certain cultures. You're looking at it through a very malicious lense which I think is the opposite of what these movements try to represent

So it’s white people are out there in the sun getting burnt harvesting the plants vegans profit off of? No, it’s Brown people exploited and paid cheaply so whites can profit off vegetables. The trendy explosion of Quinoa made it where the natives there couldn’t even provide it on their own tables. You act like these isn’t capitalist approach to veganism that becomes mass trendy. Avocados have a black market in mexico because white vegans continue to exploit third world countries for their trendy produce. 
 

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7 minutes ago, AHippieIsBorn said:

Thanks!

Some people act like we are literally coming in and stealing their steaks or burgers from their dinner table  We're just presenting facts and there's more research now than ever. Veganuary (An annual January trial of veganism) had RECORD #s this year of 400,000 people. Not to mention that the plant based options in grocery stores is growing also. Plant based restaurants are also booming. 

Heck, just look at the Oscars/Grammys this year: Joaquin for Best Actor and Billie for Best Song, Record, Album etc Both vegans 

I think it's because they feel a glimmer of guilt and don't like that they are made to feel that way because how can they enjoy their favourite food ever again. 

I've noticed that plant based options are booming and it's good to see. They used to be the most expensive products and now they are affordable for everybody. 

I wish people could see veganism as a good thing. The less lives that are slaughtered, the better because that means less suffering. Surely that's a good thing and is something humans should be working towards. 

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8 minutes ago, AHippieIsBorn said:

How do you know the goals of veganism if you're not vegan? Because that statement is false. 

Also, who's talking about cultural appropriation? We are talking diet.. 

You’re bringing an end to animal based products. Therefore, ending historical cultures with historical animal based meals. How is Sushi gonna survive Veganism? How is Kitfo gonna survive Veganism?

Making plant based animal products is not the true goal of Veganism because it reinforces the idea of “what does beef actually taste like?” And people would go right back to eating beef.

You are slowly weaning people off animals but at the same time enforcing capitalist vegetable farmers that exploit people of color because it is a low skill labor.
 

 

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1 minute ago, ltlmnstr said:

You’re bringing an end to animal based products. Therefore, ending historical cultures with historical animal based meals. How is Sushi gonna survive Veganism? How is Kitfo gonna survive Veganism?

Making plant based animal products is not the true goal of Veganism because it reinforces the idea of “what does beef actually taste like?” And people would go right back to eating beef.

You are slowly weaning people off animals but at the same time enforcing capitalist vegetable farmers that exploit people of color because it is a low skill labor.
 

 

What happens to sushi if we do so much fishing that we deplete the world's resources? 

Your opinion of plant based products is like something Donald Trump would say. 

I don't think exploiting other humans is right either but that's another problem that requires a different solution. 

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1 hour ago, ALGAYDO said:

Your reasoning was because of ancestral time. Food has changed. We are no longer wild savages who hunt and gather for food. Evolve with the times babe 

That wasn't my only reasoning   just because we don't  hunt anymore doesn't mean we shouldn't eat meat! We eat meat because thats our natural diet. Evolve with the time babe

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Just now, Glamourpuss said:

What happens to sushi if we do so much fishing that we deplete the world's resources? 

Your opinion of plant based products is like something Donald Trump would say. 

I don't think exploiting other humans is right either but that's another problem that requires a different solution. 

Oh what next? Calling me Hitler?

That’s a tired trope with internet arguments.

Plant based animals products still encourage animal consumption. Because there will always be a comparison and people vote with their wallets and animal products win out. It just doesn’t taste the exact same.

Veganism is in many ways modern colonialism because you are demanding a people to change their way of life from the ground up.

Muslims have ritual sacrifices. To the Vegans, they’d erase this part of that culture.

Vegans are starting to abuse religious freedom laws to claim discrimination when people disagree with them.

So which aspects of each cultures get to survive then? Go up to African cultures, tell them they’re savages for eating meat, and they have to abandon that part of their life.

You go tell an Ethiopian they have to abandon Kitfo.

If Intersectionality is the end goal, you can not excuse racism from Veganism.

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1 minute ago, ltlmnstr said:

Oh what next? Calling me Hitler?

That’s a tired trope with internet arguments.

Plant based animals products still encourage animal consumption. Because there will always be a comparison and people vote with their wallets and animal products win out. It just doesn’t taste the exact same.

Veganism is in many ways modern colonialism because you are demanding a people to change their way of life from the ground up.

Muslims have ritual sacrifices. To the Vegans, they’d erase this part of that culture.

Vegans are starting to abuse religious freedom laws to claim discrimination when people disagree with them.

So which aspects of each cultures get to survive then? Go up to African cultures, tell them they’re savages for eating meat, and they have to abandon that part of their life.

You go tell an Ethiopian they have to abandon Kitfo.

If Intersectionality is the end goal, you can not excuse racism from Veganism.

I wouldn't go that far but your opinions seem to be outdated tbh. 

There might be the odd person who wants to taste some real meat but that's not going to be all vegans and is a very small problem imo. Plant based options are helping people transition from eating meat because some taste so similar to meat you can't taste a difference. 

I don't think westerners have a right to criticise any culture that isn't their own. (But we should be able to step in and intervene with animal welfare though). 

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I would LOVE to be vegetarian. I have tried before for a year and I got extremely sick for not having any meat.  

Unfortunately some of our bodies need it. Everyone’s different.

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13 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said:

That wasn't my only reasoning   just because we don't  hunt anymore doesn't mean we shouldn't eat meat! We eat meat because thats our natural diet. Evolve with the time babe

Does eating processed and red meat cause cancer?

* Yes, processed meat can cause bowel cancer

* Eating lots of red meat can also increase the risk of cancer

* However much you eat, cutting down will reduce your risk, and there’s lots of ways you can do this

https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/diet-and-cancer/does-eating-processed-and-red-meat-cause-cancer

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47 minutes ago, ltlmnstr said:

And I think you’re lying because the end goal of Veganism is that everyone becomes Vegan.

It is essential to that way of life. It is undiverse and some cultures are not for everyone to share. Native Americans have closed cultures and warbonnets are not some quirky accessory. 

It’s a trend of here GGD that cultural appropriation is not taken seriously and it shows that Black hair is just “any old hairstyle” for everyone to wear when Black people are harassed for having those styles

Well you couldn’t sound any more ignorant if you tried. You wanna speak about cultures? Well I’m a Hindu and my culture preaches Ahimsa which means non-violence. India has the largest population of vegetarians. We don’t follow trends set up by white people. We think every life is equal and important and no one deserves to be murdered. Before you use ‘culture’ as an example, kindly research more. 

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2 minutes ago, Glamourpuss said:

I don't think westerners have a right to criticise any culture that isn't their own.

This is such a pageant answer to me that I can’t take seriously.

Population statistics show that whites ate reproducing less while People of Color are reproducing more. The end battle will be getting People of Color to change their cultures to appease what is currently advertised as a very white sensibility.

https://www.terraincognitamedia.com/features/vegan-activism-and-anti-indigenity-violating-indigenous-food-sovereignty2019

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Just now, Adarsh said:

Well you couldn’t sound any more ignorant if you tried. You wanna speak about cultures? Well I’m a Hindu and my culture preaches Ahimsa which means non-violence. India has the largest population of vegetarians. We don’t follow trends set up by white people. We think every life is equal and important and no one deserves to be murdered. Before you use ‘culture’ as an example, kindly research more. 

And I’m not Hindu.

You’re gonna ignore the African cultural examples I listed? Again, GGD loves to erase Black people from the conversation.

You’re gonna ignore my examples of Islam and their ritual sacrifices that integral to their way of life?

I mean this did just happen...

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/12/india-anti-muslim-citizenship-bill-191209095557419.html