Blastertoyo 22,728 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, FfFfFfFF said: It doesn't matter.  Her debut was in 2007. How come ''Lizzo's peak doesn't count''? Count for what? Lizzo debuted it 2013 Billie debuted in 2016 this doesn’t  mean they can’t still be iconic Adeles debut was in 2007 but it doesn't change that she entirely surpassed Gaga in awards, sales, and notoriety, she was iconic after Gaga therefore she is the last You can’t say Call Me Maybe isn’t iconic because Carlys debut was in 2007 please enlighten me to death Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 54,014 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, Blastertoyo said: Lizzo debuted it 2013 Billie debuted in 2016 this doesn’t  mean they can’t still be iconic Adeles debut was in 2007 but it doesn't change that she entirely surpassed Gaga in awards, sales, and notoriety, she was iconic after Gaga therefore she is the last You can’t say Call Me Maybe isn’t iconic because Carlys debut was in 2007 How is this even relevant to our discussion? Where in my post I even said a song can't be iconic if the artist debuted before Gaga? Nobody said they can't be iconic (even though the artists you mentioned aren't, at least not yet ), but that their debut year remains their debut year regardless of wehn they they had ''their peak''. Adele debuted before Gaga therefore Gaga is last compared to her. Also, as a side fact, Adele didn't surpass Gaga in terms of awards and is highly debatable in terms of notoriety: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Lady_Gaga https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Adele Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackCrown 1,794 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 7 hours ago, Blastertoyo said: Why is everyone forgetting ADELE ushered indie into mainstream again ultimate no gimmick is her gimmick Rolling in the Deep Someone like you Set for to the rain Rumor has it Hello  You're right ! Even if they are totally different, Adele truly is an icon that has made a big impact and massive success My crown is black, like the soul of fame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsieur D 2,878 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Whats iconic about Ariana?? I don't get it I love her, but let's be real... she can't dance, she's not creativity at all, she's not a great songwriter, her music videos are bored, nothing about her is innovative... nothing about her is iconic. I'm not a hater, I love her music, but let's be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackCrown 1,794 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mister D said: Whats iconic about Ariana?? I don't get it I love her, but let's be real... she can't dance, she's not creativity at all, she's not a great songwriter, her music videos are bored, nothing about her is innovative... nothing about her is iconic. I'm not a hater, I love her music, but let's be honest. She has some amazing music videos My crown is black, like the soul of fame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyxGaGa 927 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Ktaylor99 said: How is this even a question? Is the sky blue? Is water wet? Is the Pope Catholic? Is Lady Gaga Italian? I mean is the pope a catholic? wow I have to watch spice world now, thx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Mary 1,051 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020  6 minutes ago, Mister D said: Whats iconic about Ariana?? I don't get it I love her, but let's be real... she can't dance, she's not creativity at all, she's not a great songwriter, her music videos are bored, nothing about her is innovative... nothing about her is iconic. I'm not a hater, I love her music, but let's be honest. she might not be your cup of tea but denying she's a 2010s icon is just ... she has been the female popstar everyone's been talking since 2015, yes she's not a great songwriter but still also she has amazing videos like god Is a woman, focus, NTLTC and love me harder...  I would say Adele and Ariana Grande are the two big iconic artists after gaga in the 2010s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackCrown 1,794 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 7 hours ago, FfFfFfFF said: She debuted in 2007... What about Red and Blue in 2006 ? My crown is black, like the soul of fame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 54,014 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, BlackCrown said: What about Red and Blue in 2006 ? Gaga's debut was 2008, according to Wikipedia, music sites, magazines, fans. Like, this is when her first song with her actual stage name that you cant find on streaming services is dated to so it's her debut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Mary 1,051 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, FfFfFfFF said: Gaga's debut was 2008, according to Wikipedia, music sites, magazines, fans. Like, this is when her first song with her actual stage name that you cant find on streaming services is dated to so it's her debut. so? she had a career before, just like Adele lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackCrown 1,794 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, FfFfFfFF said: Gaga's debut was 2008, according to Wikipedia, music sites, magazines, fans. Like, this is when her first song with her actual stage name that you cant find on streaming services is dated to so it's her debut. I was joking My crown is black, like the soul of fame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 54,014 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, Electric Mary said: so? she had a career before, just like Adele lmao What is your point lol? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 54,014 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, BlackCrown said: I was joking Sorry, I couldn't tell. @Electric Mary, are you also joking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Mary 1,051 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020  2 minutes ago, FfFfFfFF said: What is your point lol? they both started their career way before 2010 so your point is kinda meh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 54,014 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, Electric Mary said: they bot st they both started their career way before 2010 so your point is kinda meh By performing in clubs and uploading music to Myspace?  You are free to count it the way you want, however objectively and officially Adele started in 2007 with Hometown Glory and Gaga with Just Dance in 2008. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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