Nancy Pelosi “RIPS UP” SOTU Speech! 😉

[ItsTommyBitch 12,640]

6 hours ago, En_Sabah_Nur said:

You know, in normal times I would 100% agree with you about weeding out corruption!  But unfortunately we are NOT living in normal times now. We have an Authoritarian Tyrant trying to Rule this country with an IRON 👊🏿 Fist at the moment. Unlike ANY president in U.S. History!  He is TRULY an existential threat to ALL we hold dear as a country & as liberals in general. And if you cannot see the STARK difference between him & someone like Nancy Pelosi(despite her faults), then I don’t even know what to tell ya... I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this one then!  Smh

 

I don't know why you keep taking this angle with me. 

1) Nancy is not as openly racist, bigoted, etc. as Trump. Duh.

2) Nancy and many Democrats in office are more interested in symbolic resistance than literal resistance.

As I've said before, the world didn't blow up by me recognizing both of these facts.

But, if you're saying we need to accept some corruption from Democrats in order to win, then I gotta tell you, I wish that were possible. At this point in history, I would be fine with a strong armed Democratic party that isn't afraid of the Republicans to take advantage of every single weakness they find. I'm all here for them taking radical action - fine or jail people that defy congressional subpoenas, hold people in contempt in the House, use their money for massive protesting and organizing demonstrations, travel the country appealing to the people most harmed by Trump's policies, give public addresses, stage boycotts, resist in every single way possible, the list goes on for quite a while.

The PROBLEM is that its only the progressives -who are underrepresented in Congress - that want to do that, and other Democrats tell them not to do it because they are reliant on the same damn donor money as their Republican counterparts for their re-election, and they want to stay in office, so shut up 

The corruption of these specific moderate Democrats ENABLES Trump's actions, not opposes it, that is the problem.

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4 hours ago, SlaeUrAnus said:

This is a now iconic gif

Gaga scrapping LG6 after the lead single and the dates leaked.

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1 hour ago, August3 said:

When you change the opinion of the voter, and thereby change what they vote for, is that not influencing the politics of another country?

Im honestly fascinated and shocked by how your brain works 

[Queen Bitch 10,513]

6 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said:

Im honestly fascinated and shocked by how your brain works 

I could say the same thing about you

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, August3 said:

I could say the same thing about you

I have news for you, you just interfered in the Saudi elections because you changed my opinion on something  

[Queen Bitch 10,513]

1 minute ago, Faysalaaa said:

I have news for you, you just interfered in the Saudi elections because you changed my opinion on something  

Twisted my words. That seems to be something you're good at

[Shaney 5,515]

10 hours ago, Faysalaaa said:

She signed Trump military budget twice and gave him billions of money over what he asked for, but look how brave she is ripping off papers and clapping. 

She refused to impeach bush because she would be exposed as being part of the illegal crimes of human torture.

Im sorry, but this is the same circus show Trump is doing

Thank you.

 

[Queen Bitch 10,513]

4 hours ago, Faysalaaa said:

[Edited my Mods]

1) I said you're influencing people's politics by changing other people's mind on politics. That's is not necessarily the same as interfering in elections. I literally don't know how to explain that better to you. 

2) I have NEVER said that that it's okay to rape someone, under any circumstances. That is you putting words into my mouth. I can't believe I even have to say this, but I DO NOT support pedophilia. As someone who was groomed as a child (of course you don't know that) I find it gross and hurtful that you assume that. 

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4 minutes ago, August3 said:

1) I said you're influencing people's politics by changing other people's mind on politics. That's is not necessarily the same as interfering in elections. I literally don't know how to explain that better to you. 

2) I have NEVER said that that it's okay to rape someone, under any circumstances. That is you putting words into my mouth. I can't believe I even have to say this, but I DO NOT support pedophilia. As someone who was groomed as a child (of course you don't know that) I find it gross and hurtful that you assume that. 

1) You are right, I just re red the comment again and you did not accuse me on interfering in elections, but you were trying to say im interfering in another way. Yes the internet and having friends from all over the world could change their politics, but nothing wrong with that. Just like how me traveling the world and making friends from different countries changed my views and politics of my own country, and thats a good thing.

2) I used rape as an extreme example to see if you contradict yourself, and in my opinion you are still contradicting yourself. You say there is no morals and its all subjective, its up to people to decide? but then now you say rape is wrong? so this is why im confused. Im honestly trying to understand because I have this same conversation with people I personally know and it always frustrate me.

Sorry about what you went through, if you want to use another example than rape, I can do that.

[Queen Bitch 10,513]

14 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said:

1) You are right, I just re red the comment again and you did not accuse me on interfering in elections, but you were trying to say im interfering in another way. Yes the internet and having friends from all over the world could change their politics, but nothing wrong with that. Just like how me traveling the world and making friends from different countries changed my views and politics of my own country, and thats a good thing.

2) I used rape as an extreme example to see if you contradict yourself, and in my opinion you are still contradicting yourself. You say there is no morals and its all subjective, its up to people to decide? but then now you say rape is wrong? so this is why im confused. Im honestly trying to understand because I have this same conversation with people I personally know and it always frustrate me.

Sorry about what you went through, if you want to use another example than rape, I can do that.

1) I actually agree with you, not much to add there

2) There are different types of moral relativism. There are descriptive moral relativism, meta-ethical moral relativism and normative moral relatvism. I believe in descriptive moral relativism. 

Within descriptive moral relativism, the belief is that different cultures have different moral standards, but we shouldn't necessarily respect other moral standards. For example if rape is seen as moral somewhere (which I highly doubt) then we should not have to respect that. Because rape is harmful.

Meta-ethical moral relativism is also the belief that different cultures have different moral standards, but also the belief that there is not such thing as good, bad, right or wrong morals. Those beliefs are very unpopular. 

Then there's normative moral relativism, which is mostly the same as meta-ethical moral relatvisism but also the belief that we should be intolerant to others moral standards if they're hurtful. 

It's a very shallow description, I know, but I hope it clears up what I believe and what I don't believe in. 

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2 minutes ago, August3 said:

1) I actually agree with you, not much to add there

2) There are different types of moral relativism. There are descriptive moral relativism, meta-ethical moral relativism and normative moral relatvism. I believe in descriptive moral relativism. 

Within descriptive moral relativism, the belief is that different cultures have different moral standards, but we shouldn't necessarily respect other moral standards. For example if rape is seen as moral somewhere (which I highly doubt) then should not have to respect that.

Meta-ethical moral relativism is also the belief that different cultures have different moral standards, but also the belief that there is not such thing as good, bad, right or wrong morals. Those beliefs are very unpopular. 

Then there's normative moral relativism, which is mostly the same as meta-ethical moral relatvisism but also the belief that we should be intolerant to others moral standards if they're hurtful. 

It's a very shallow description, I know, but I hope it clears up what I believe and what I don't believe in. 

Descriptive moral relativism does not respect things like rape, but what are they basing their disrespect of rape from if they dont believe morals exist? I personally base my morals on freedom and owning my own life, so we should have the freedom to do whatever we want aslong as its not forced on others.

And please understand that in many parts of the world, rape and pedophilia is accepted as a norm and seen as human nature. They dont say rape is okay, but they have rules for when to accept rape. In my culture, its okay to rape a wife because they dont consider that rape and the law wont recognize it as rape. My mother was married at the age of 15 to a 25 year old man, this is seen as normal in my culture.

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10 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said:

Descriptive moral relativism does not respect things like rape, but what are they basing their disrespect of rape from if they dont believe morals exist? I personally base my morals on freedom and owning my own life, so we should have the freedom to do whatever we want aslong as its not forced on others.

And please understand that in many parts of the world, rape and pedophilia is accepted as a norm and seen as human nature. They dont say rape is okay, but they have rules for when to accept rape. In my culture, its okay to rape a wife because they dont consider that rape and the law wont recognize it as rape. My mother was married at the age of 15 to a 25 year old man, this is seen as normal in my culture.

They are basing their disrespect of rape, on the fact that it's scientifically proven that rape has harmful psychological and physical effects. Because it's proven to have harmful effects, they do not believe it should be respected. 

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10 minutes ago, August3 said:

They are basing their disrespect of rape, on the fact that it's scientifically proven that rape has harmful psychological and physical effects. Because it's proven to have harmful effects, they do not believe it should be respected. 

Correct, this is why rape is objectively immoral. If you dont like the word immoral, replace it with objectively wrong.

I personally would go even further and say even if there is no negative psychological effect, we should not rape.

Example is someone choosing to take drugs, stopping them wont cause psychological damage, it will actually help. But I personally believe its immoral to stop them because it is their own body and they have the freedom to do whatever they want. Same goes with sex work other things.

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I don't care how many ppl dislike her or hate her politics, a queen that does this much shade to the face of the man (man child reality star) running the "most" powerful country in the world is a queen in my books. 

Btw She aint no messy bottom the way she organized the papers b4 ripping them up lmao Slay much. 

Let me get you togetha b4 I snatch that wig 

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8 hours ago, En_Sabah_Nur said:

That’ll be the day......!