Morphine Prince 109,650 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 PELLA, Iowa — In one of his most direct confrontations yet with his top rival in the Iowa caucuses, former Vice President Joe Biden on Thursday called out Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont for not being a Democrat even as Sanders makes a competitive run for that party’s presidential nomination. Biden also jabbed Sanders’ record on gun control in among his most detailed remarks on the matter to date. “I’m a Democrat,” said Biden, who moments earlier had told reporters at a Dairy Queen in the state that the contrasts between himself and his top rivals were “self-evident.” Asked to elaborate, Biden swiped at Sanders, who represents Vermont as an independent in the Senate. “Well, he says he’s not. He says — you know, he’s not registered as a Democrat, to the best of my knowledge. And Bernie has a different view.” Source: https://www.yahoo.com/news/im-democrat-biden-accuses-sanders-132141871.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 We don’t want that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petie Estie 5,704 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Do people really identify themselves with the Democratic party? Like....not just as opposed to the Republican party? That never made sense to me. I've said things like "I'm a Democrat" as shorthand for not being a terrible person in years past ... but like ... I can't believe these politicians think it actually *means something* to be a registered Democrat. You want people to tow the party line more than fight for their values? You think that's good? Okay. Call your therapist...it's Petie Estie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachinko 10,753 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Biden, just when I thought I couldn't dislike you more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoshLife 17,019 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 And the more important part of the article: Biden, when asked about Sanders’ record on gun control, directly attacked him for opposing one of the most popular Democratic-backed gun measures in the 1990s, something he had resisted doing in detail as recently as last week. “I think Bernie has made his verbal amends for his record on guns,” he said in a barely veiled jab. Asked whether that was sufficient, he said, “Well, yeah, I do. I think he means it. I think that, you know, the fact that he gave the gun manufacturers an exemption that no other, no other industry in the world — in the United States — has, I think he regrets having done that.” Biden also noted that Sanders had voted against the Brady Bill, which instituted background checks on handguns, five times. “I think he’s regretted that. I think he’s changed his mind,” Biden said. “So I take him at his word.” --- I think we can all agree it's fair for other candidates to point out what they see as flaws in Biden's record on things like Iraq and criminal justice. I'd say it's also fair for Biden to point this out about Sanders. The man is not above reproach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,444 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, SEANGT said: Do people really identify themselves with the Democratic party? Like....not just as opposed to the Republican party? That never made sense to me. I've said things like "I'm a Democrat" as shorthand for not being a terrible person in years past ... but like ... I can't believe these politicians think it actually *means something* to be a registered Democrat. You want people to tow the party line more than fight for their values? You think that's good? Okay. Personally, I'm only registered as a Democrat so I can vote in the primaries People should define themselves with their policy opinions and views on society when it comes to politics. Not with a "D" or an "R" next to their name. Biden's comment is an example of the tribalism turned cult-like that's made the US what it is today Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, PoshLife said: And the more important part of the article: Biden, when asked about Sanders’ record on gun control, directly attacked him for opposing one of the most popular Democratic-backed gun measures in the 1990s, something he had resisted doing in detail as recently as last week. “I think Bernie has made his verbal amends for his record on guns,” he said in a barely veiled jab. Asked whether that was sufficient, he said, “Well, yeah, I do. I think he means it. I think that, you know, the fact that he gave the gun manufacturers an exemption that no other, no other industry in the world — in the United States — has, I think he regrets having done that.” Biden also noted that Sanders had voted against the Brady Bill, which instituted background checks on handguns, five times. “I think he’s regretted that. I think he’s changed his mind,” Biden said. “So I take him at his word.” --- I think we can all agree it's fair for other candidates to point out what they see as flaws in Biden's record on things like Iraq and criminal justice. I'd say it's also fair for Biden to point this out about Sanders. The man is not above reproach. So Sanders fault is that he didnt vote for a Bill back in the 90s? Like 30 years ago? And he could have reasonably changed his mine since then. And ofc it's not in any way an equal offense to Biden's multiple flaws. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaney 5,515 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Thumbs down for Biden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill 31,812 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 well big deal oh my god, being a democrat/republican is the only way of ever having a shot at the presidency, it's sad but it's true. Sanders is intelligent so he obviously wouldn't present himself as an independent candidate, and Biden knows that he wouldn't have a shot as one, so he says what he says. He's afraid edit: also, it's sad the only good thing about him he can think of in comparison to bernie is that he's a so called "true democrat" Former First Lady of the United States. Now card-carrying member of the Communist Party of China (CPC). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoni 5,332 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Being a Democrat isn't something be proud of when you compare our left party to the left party in most other major countries lmao My name isn't Timmers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,563 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 I- If Joe Biden is what a true Democrat should be... suddenly we don’t stan anymore. How does he not see this. He’s shrinking the party’s appeal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 I’m a Berniecrat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainiac 11,171 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 This is gonna backfire just like everything else they’ve tried up to this point. Bernie not being a Democrat is a POSITIVE thing in the electorate’s eyes. Most Americans self identify as independent! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sethrb101 4,523 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 I don't give a f*ck what party he or anybody is in. It comes down to policy and values. Areas where he's lacking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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