Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Idiotic. I'm happy Californians are moving to Texas. Make us purple faster! Blue soon enough That being said, the housing crisis in California is insane. And people are mad people are moving to Texas because they are driving up prices in places like Austin. So you want Texas economy to be like California's??? Ohhhhhhhhhhkkkkkkkkkkkaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 110,026 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Just now, derpmonster said: Reminder that the California housing crisis is entirely manufactured. Los Angeles has the highest homeless population in the country. And Los Angeles also has 35k vacant houses. The so called invisible hand of the free market has failed. Landlords couldn't be bothered to lower prices despite vacancies cause one landlord owns like 7 properties and it doesn't matter to them if 1 is vacant. Yup, thanks you greed. The wealthy screwing over everyone else as usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 55,360 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Just now, Woolfsmck said: It worked in the 1950's because why? The U.S. in 2020 is a farrrrrrrrrrrr different place .. Wow, thank you for posing a rhetorical question with absolutely no counter argument! The US is in a far different place because corporations and the wealthy have increased the gap between the lowest and highest income brackets exponentially in the decades following the 50s by lobbying for preferential legislative treatment via subsidies, stifling wages, exporting manufacturing jobs, and vilifying the poor. The country has progressed in terms of racial and social equality, certainly. Now, imagine bridging those two worlds by taking the best from the 50s by repealing the Supreme Court ruling on Citizens United deeming corporate money in politics ‘free speech’, redistributing tax revenue, taxing the rich and multinational corporations, creating laws to hold them accountable for domestic manufacturing, and so much more. History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes. We adapt lessons from the past to create the future. Just because things have changed doesn’t mean the past is irrelevant. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 10 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said: Hollywood is like a disease and Texans don’t want to be infected Imagine thinking California is Hollywood Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, derpmonster said: Reminder that the California housing crisis is entirely manufactured. Los Angeles has the highest homeless population in the country. And Los Angeles also has 35k vacant houses. The so called invisible hand of the free market has failed. Landlords couldn't be bothered to lower prices despite vacancies cause one landlord owns like 7 properties and it doesn't matter to them if 1 is vacant. So the additional Tax Burden that landowners have to pay doesn't have anything to do with the rental rates ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 110,026 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Woolfsmck said: So you want Texas economy to be like California's??? Ohhhhhhhhhhkkkkkkkkkkkaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Well, California's economy is bigger, so maybe? But no. Both economies drive each other from different sources. Wouldn't mind if we vote blue in presidential elections though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 26 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: I lived in Austin Texas, and people HATED anyone from California lol I dont blame them though Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, zebulonpyke said: Wow, thank you for posing a rhetorical question with absolutely no counter argument! The US is in a far different place because corporations and the wealthy have increased the gap between the lowest and highest income brackets exponentially in the decades following the 50s by lobbying for preferential legislative treatment via subsidies, stifling wages, exporting manufacturing jobs, and vilifying the poor. The country has progressed in terms of racial and social equality, certainly. Now, imagine bridging those two worlds by taking the best from the 50s by repealing the Supreme Court ruling on Citizens United deeming corporate money in politics ‘free speech’, redistributing tax revenue, taxing the rich and multinational corporations, creating laws to hold them accountable for domestic manufacturing, and so much more. History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes. We adapt lessons from the past to create the future. Just because things have changed doesn’t mean the past is irrelevant. Its only rhetorical and not argument to you... Saying a post WWII economic and political landscape should work now is missing the entire context for what I said .. (I can't see discussing this with an imicilic mentality any futher…please find someone else to bs...) like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,162 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 27 minutes ago, littlepotter said: What do brexit or irrelevant history have to do with the fact that taxing the rich works in countries like finland 32 minutes ago, littlepotter said: For the last time, no one "thinks". We "see" it work in Europe. This applies to everything from gun control to abortion laws. Stop. There's a few crutial details that are different between Europe and the US Your saying "we've seen it works" but ur comparing apples to oranges #1 Europe does not spend as much on military as the US not even close (1% to 2% of GDP vs 4% in the US) which already leaves the US with less funds to begin with #2 European Countries to fund all the programs everyone likes they tax the general population MORE as well not just the rich If the US does not cut its military budget, and if it wants to keep tax for the middle class from going to Europe levels... The US will have to tax the rich higher rates than they do in Europe to get the same programs payed for and that's indeed the kinds of rates politicians like Ocasio Cortez and Bernie Sanders propose Woolfsmck is allowed to have an opinion. Ur using Europe as proof but it's not the same situation at all PS: I don't think the rich in America pay enough tho. But I do question the effect of how high some want to take it to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Morphine Prince said: Well, California's economy is bigger, so maybe? But no. Both economies drive each other from different sources. Wouldn't mind if we vote blue in presidential elections though. Point taken … I hope the WH goes blue this year too .. but I'm not a party loyalist … like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Just now, Woolfsmck said: So the additional Tax Burden that landowners have to pay doesn't have anything to do with the rental rates ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Imagine thinking that landlords have it hard in any way their taxation is a minuscule portion of their income. There are property owners of vacant houses out there who make in a day what you'll make in 3 months but keep caping for them. Your enemy isn't taxes. It's greedy corporations Shouldn't they pay at least as much as regular people? Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 55,360 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Woolfsmck said: Its only rhetorical and not argument to you... Saying a post WWII economic and political landscape should work now is missing the entire context for what I said .. (I can't see discussing this with an imicilic mentality any futher…please find someone else to bs...) You said virtually nothing lmao there was literally no context to what you said. You can’t say you weren’t asking me if you literally quoted me. But I think you’re projecting with the whole “find someone else to bs” given that you presented a paper thin argument and got annoyed when people called you out on it. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, derpmonster said: Imagine thinking California is Hollywood Who said that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Economy said: There's a few crutial details that are different between Europe and the US Your saying "we've seen it works" but ur comparing apples to oranges #1 Europe does not spend as much on military as the US not even close (1% to 2% of GDP vs 4% in the US) which already leaves the US with less funds to begin with #2 European Countries to fund all the programs everyone likes they tax the general population MORE as well not just the rich If the US does not cut its military budget, and if it wants to keep tax for the middle class from going to Europe levels... The US will have to tax the rich higher rates than they do in Europe to get the same programs payed for and that's indeed the kinds of rates politicians like Ocasio Cortez and Bernie Sanders propose Woolfsmck is allowed to have an opinion. Ur using Europe as proof but it's not the same situation at all PS: I don't think the rich in America pay enough tho. But I do question the effect of how high some want to take it to But the thing is most people who want social democratic programs are also in favor of cutting those things you mentioned ssns raising taxes on the rich (especially companies) to at least as much as the middle class. Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,162 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, derpmonster said: Imagine thinking that landlords have it hard in any way their taxation is a minuscule portion of their income. There are property owners of vacant houses out there who make in a day what you'll make in 3 months but keep caping for them. Your enemy isn't taxes. It's greedy corporations Shouldn't they pay at least as much as regular people? Ummmmmmm I'm going to assume the rental market is completely different in America then than it is in my Country? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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