Biden won’t commit to supporting Sanders if he is Nominee

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3 minutes ago, Gov Hooka said:

It is pathetic that you can be so ignorant to listen to Gaga’s music and messages of acceptance, kindness, and love and be okay with the sewage that comes out of Trump’s mouth and vote for that POS. You are ignorant, bigoted, and not a Stan of Gaga as far as I’m concerned

Your opinion of me as person or as a fan does not change the deep impact that Gaga has had on my life. Being conservative in one area does not mean I am this alt-right demon. I practice and preach messages of love, acceptance, kindness, and understanding throughout my life and will continue to for the rest of my life. If there was a time where I thought that my stance on social justice was more at risk than my views of (for instance) the economy, I would vote left. 

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2 minutes ago, Economy said:

Cool!

 

If ur interested in a discourse, I can explain in detail why I've changed my stances a little bit

 

But it would take a while to explain and type it all out so I won't bother unless u actually tell me u wanna know other wise I'll leave it

I would love to! Would you want to message privately instead so that we don't have to disturb everyone here? 

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1 minute ago, unMANiCURED said:

Your opinion of me as person or as a fan does not change the deep impact that Gaga has had on my life. Being conservative in one area does not mean I am this alt-right demon. I practice and preach messages of love, acceptance, kindness, and understanding throughout my life and will continue to for the rest of my life. If there was a time where I thought that my stance on social justice was more at risk than my views of (for instance) the economy, I would vote left. 

You’re LYING to yourself

You are a hypocrite

You accept all the stuff Trump said. You do not practice kindness and acceptance. You’re a bigot and a liar  

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6 minutes ago, Gov Hooka said:

I don’t support you at all and I wholeheartedly wish that you weren’t a part of the gay community. I say that to all LGBT Trump supporters. They get no love from me and are not welcome in any LGBT space. 

Ironic that someone who claims to be a firm follower of Gaga's "messages of acceptance, kindness, and love" is unsupporting of another LGBTQ+ Little Monster. Not very loving, accepting, or kind. But you do you. 

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2 minutes ago, unMANiCURED said:

I would love to! Would you want to message privately instead so that we don't have to disturb everyone here? 

Aight I'll pm u. It will take several minutes cuz I have many paragraphs to write to explain it all 

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Just now, unMANiCURED said:

Ironic that someone who claims to be a firm follower of Gaga's "messages of acceptance, kindness, and love" is unsupporting of another LGBTQ+ Little Monster. Not very loving, accepting, or kind. But you do you. 

You can’t be kind and accepting towards people who are inherently unkind and who support policies that harm the lives of others. Also are we allowed to block on mobile  otherwise I’ll keep getting notifications from this bigot until I get to my laptop

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Just now, Gov Hooka said:

You can’t be kind and accepting towards people who are inherently unkind and who support policies that harm the lives of others. Also are we allowed to block on mobile  otherwise I’ll keep getting notifications from this bigot until I get to my laptop

I never said I supported those policies. I actually said quite the opposite and that if I felt that the policies in place protecting people's right to love, practice religion, etc. were jeopardized or at risk, I would vote blue in an instant. 

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7 minutes ago, unMANiCURED said:

I'm currently a business student and have a different view of the economy as people with different perspectives and can understand the other side as well. I respect your opinion as well and am glad we can have a civil discourse about politics and still unite under our common love for pop culture. 

I’m an accountant and I’m a Democratic Socialist or as close as you get to it. Being a business student doesn’t really have bearing on ideology. 

As a side note, the only reason people are complaining that Bernie’s policies are so radical is because we’ve implemented right-wing economic strategy for over 30 years now. It’s radical because the strategy we implemented has increased wealth inequality to increase in disparity to the point there is no middle class. We have “haves” and “have nots.” The reality conservatives need to come to grips with is that have nots struggle until they demand change. America has not been domestically disruptive since the civil rights era and unless something changes, our future is looking to be very disruptive and violent. And the people that will deserve the blame are the media and corporate elite class for being so greedy and expecting the middle and working class to have increasing costs of living with no real increases in wages in a capitalist system that is always demanding more efficiency and productivity. 

Note: I don’t condone violence at all but history shows very clear examples of what’s to come. 

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2 minutes ago, unMANiCURED said:

I never said I supported those policies. I actually said quite the opposite and that if I felt that the policies in place protecting people's right to love, practice religion, etc. were jeopardized or at risk, I would vote blue in an instant. 

You do support them because you vote for politicians that actively enact them. Do whatever mental gymnastics you want to give yourself a clean conscience

 

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@Gov Hooka I agree with you 100%. There is truly a deplorable among us. 

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3 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said:

I’m an accountant and I’m a Democratic Socialist or as close as you get to it. Being a business student doesn’t really have bearing on ideology. 

As a side note, the only reason people are complaining that Bernie’s policies are so radical is because we’ve implemented right-wing economic strategy for over 30 years now. It’s radical because the strategy we implemented has increased wealth inequality to increase in disparity to the point there is no middle class. We have “haves” and “have nots.” The reality conservatives need to come to grips with is that have nots struggle until they demand change. America has not been domestically disruptive since the civil rights era and unless something changes, our future is looking to be very disruptive and violent. And the people that will deserve the blame are the media and corporate elite class for being so greedy and expecting the middle and working class to have increasing costs of living with no real increases in wages in a capitalist system that is always demanding more efficiency and productivity. 

Note: I don’t condone violence at all but history shows very clear examples of what’s to come. 

Maybe it is outside of the context of a business student. I grew up very fortunate to have been unnaffected by the policies in place in my lifetime. I can fully understand why someone with a different life experience than myself would feel differently about economic policies. I've grown up around powerful businessmen and businesswomen that have been unaffected by things like the 2008 recession and other economic events that have had catastrophic impacts on others' lives. I also understand how that may appear as ignorant (as in a "not my problem" type of way). I am studying business to not necessarily follow in the footsteps of those I've looked up to, but still enact the change I practice in my personal life. For example, making everyone's voice heard, creating a safe work environment, etc.. I don't know if what I am saying is making sense... but I hope you get my point (or what I'm trying to get across as my point).

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Imagine caring more about "money" and "the economy", literally man-made concepts, than actual human lives and taking care of one another. 

You're only as strong as your weakest link, and when I think of America, I think of gun violence, poverty, people dying due to lack of health care, and delusions of grandeur, and yet, still, somehow, PEOPLE WANT TO LOWER TAXES! Unfathomable greed. 

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1 minute ago, unMANiCURED said:

Maybe it is outside of the context of a business student. I grew up very fortunate to have been unnaffected by the policies in place in my lifetime. I can fully understand why someone with a different life experience than myself would feel differently about economic policies. I've grown up around powerful businessmen and businesswomen that have been unaffected by things like the 2008 recession and other economic events that have had catastrophic impacts on others' lives. I also understand how that may appear as ignorant (as in a "not my problem" type of way). I am studying business to not necessarily follow in the footsteps of those I've looked up to, but still enact the change I practice in my personal life. For example, making everyone's voice heard, creating a safe work environment, etc.. I don't know if what I am saying is making sense... but I hope you get my point (or what I'm trying to get across as my point).

In other words you haven’t had a life of struggle economically. My perspective is very different. My parents were high school drop outs. We were on food stamps and Medicaid. I wore the same clothes from middle school through high school because they couldn’t afford it. Before my parents divorced, they were both addicted to drugs, truly living in a world of despair. Once my mom divorced my dad, I had to work full time hours while going to high school and college just to pay bills. College was never the most “fun” years of my life because I had more important things to do. My mother worked very hard in a low wage job and then lost that job when she got colon cancer. She died two years later (January of last year). Her entire life was a life of poverty, despair and economic anxiety. So, I do get very upset with people on this forum who think we can’t have Medicare for All, that the richest don’t deserve to pay more taxes, that the minimum wage is too low and that this country can do better than the BS it has done in the past 30 years. 

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2 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said:

In other words you haven’t had a life of struggle economically. My perspective is very different. My parents were high school drop outs. We were on food stamps and Medicaid. I wore the same clothes from middle school through high school because they couldn’t afford it. Before my parents divorced, they were both addicted to drugs, truly living in a world of despair. Once my mom divorced my dad, I had to work full time hours while going to high school and college just to pay bills. College was never the most “fun” years of my life because I had more important things to do. My mother worked very hard in a low wage job and then lost that job when she got colon cancer. She died two years later (January of last year). Her entire life was a life of poverty, despair and economic anxiety. So, I do get very upset with people on this forum who think we can’t have Medicare for All, that the richest don’t deserve to pay more taxes, that the minimum wage is too low and that this country can do better than the BS it has done in the past 30 years. 

I am terribly sorry that that has happened to you and offer my deepest condolences about your mother. I could never imagine something like that happening to me. I recognize how your life experience is not only completely different than my own, but also leads to you having completely different views than me. I commend your hard work throughout high school and college (and I'm assuming that work ethic has stuck with you). I've worked as well in high school and over summer breaks in college, but never to the extent you have. I've worked for minimum wage as well and recognize that a minimum wage is not a "living" wage without additional government assistance. I hope you can see that aside from my views of the economy, I still have love and respect for people of all backgrounds. I have friends on food stamps in subsidized housing and friends with houses all around the world. I don't value one more than the other or think one worked "harder" simply because of their income. I don't know, I hope you can see I'm not some conservative monster just because I have different ideas on economic policy than you. 

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3 hours ago, Postboy said:

You want to twist this from an endorsement to political defection, when the facts show: 

12% of Bernie supporters defected to Trump.

15% of Clinton supporters defected to McCain

Oh but according your talking point, Bernie supporters are so uniquely terrible... 

First off, Trump is not the same as McCain. 

Secondly,  24 percent of Sanders voters did not vote for Clinton in the general election. Of these, about half voted for Trump, while the remaining half voted for Gary Johnson, Jill Stein, another third-party candidate or didn’t vote.