PartySick 172,533 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Gov Hooka said: Except Obama had a majority in the House AND Senate the first two years of his term.... And we have the ACA to show for it But think of how much could have actually gotten done if he had a cooperative congress. They wouldn't even let the guy nominate a SCOTUS judge Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
En_Sabah_Nur 9,366 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gov Hooka said: Except Obama had a majority in the House AND Senate the first two years of his term.... Last time I checked the economy had collapsed & he was trying to push through healthcare! Egypt. W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malazam 15,710 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Bernie dislike wars so ofc Obama would feel anxious. Syria feels anxious too. another shot before we kiss the other side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,564 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 As they should be. If god forbid, Bernie loses, he’s just spawned a whole new generation of him to fight. Look at AOC 🤗 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
En_Sabah_Nur 9,366 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Who said I HATE Obama? Also, I'm sure black people can think for themselves and decide who they like regardless of whether someone praises a black president or not. The FIRST & ONLY Black President! But let Bernie go ahead & criticize him then! He will suffer the same fait as Hillary did(Black Vote Substantially Down) for him come Election Day! SMH Egypt. W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, En_Sabah_Nur said: Thank god Bernie doesn’t hate on & despise Obama like you do, because then he would have Absolutely NO Chance at getting the above 35 Black Vote! SMDH I hope you realize that there can be legitimate criticism toward Obama. Just because he is Black and was the first Black President doesn't mean he had no faults or can't be criticized for his policies. That belief is ridiculous, and legitimate criticism doesn't amount to "hate". What crosses the line is when things become insults and hateful. Hate is the stuff the conservatives did toward him and the ridiculous stuff Obama had to go through from Republicans. The constant insults from them and Fox News. That's hate. What he did with the drone strikes and killing of American citizens and and other civilians abroad amount to war crimes just as much as they would under a Republican Administration. Rules have to be applied consistently, or else what's the point? So because he was the first Black President, he gets a pass on things like that? Pointing out these facts and some of the things he did that were wrong is not being hateful. It also doesn't mean you can't like him or appreciate him. You seem to not understand the distinction here. I for one appreciate Obama and loved him as President. But, I'm not so blind in that to ignore the things he did that were wrong, and not criticize him for them. Maybe you should do the same. Smdh.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,655 Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, En_Sabah_Nur said: The FIRST & ONLY Black President! But let Bernie go ahead & criticize him then! He will suffer the same fait as Hillary did(Black Vote Substantially Down) for him come Election Day! SMH So we can't criticize Obama's terrible foreign policy decisions involving drones? He is not and will never be above criticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, PartySick said: And we have the ACA to show for it But think of how much could have actually gotten done if he had a cooperative congress. They wouldn't even let the guy nominate a SCOTUS judge You mean Romney Care. Fantastic As good as it was for covering millions more Americans, imagine if Obama and fellow Democrats could have used that opportunity to pass an even more comprehensive health care plan. But coulda shoulda woulda... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, En_Sabah_Nur said: The FIRST & ONLY Black President! But let Bernie go ahead & criticize him then! He will suffer the same fait as Hillary did(Black Vote Substantially Down) for him come Election Day! SMH Please. I know and have heard from plenty of Black people who criticize Obama and were not happy with how he governed. Like just because he's Black doesn't mean all Black people have to agree with him and be okay with what he did. That doesn't mean they don't like him or hate him! That belief makes no damn sense. EVERY politician deserves criticism and is not always right, including Bernie and including Obama. You can both appreciate Obama and criticize him for specific policies. These things are not mutually exclusive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy 5,686 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Bernie isn’t going to criticize Obama. He didn’t even come for Hillary this week! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn MonHoe 11,011 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 29 minutes ago, Gagaloo92 said: What crosses the line is when things become insults and hateful. Hate is the stuff the conservatives did toward him and the ridiculous stuff Obama had to go through from Republicans. The constant insults from them and Fox News. That's hate. Idk. What about when Clinton circulated this image of Obama to rile up the racists in our country in order to prevent him from winning? Or when her campaign called Obama’s supporters “Obama boys”? Seems pretty hateful to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 39 minutes ago, Marilyn MonHoe said: Idk. What about when Clinton circulated this image of Obama to rile up the racists in our country in order to prevent him from winning? Or when her campaign called Obama’s supporters “Obama boys”? Seems pretty hateful to me. Well I was mostly referring to those that user was claiming to be hateful against Obama, but yea this ain't okay. And to think they want to come for Bernie when he's always played fair and never stooped to that sort of level even in 2016. Same can't be said of Hillary who these same people love to defend.. She's the real dirty one with a questionable history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
En_Sabah_Nur 9,366 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Gagaloo92 said: I hope you realize that there can be legitimate criticism toward Obama. Just because he is Black and was the first Black President doesn't mean he had no faults or can't be criticized for his policies. That belief is ridiculous, and legitimate criticism doesn't amount to "hate". What crosses the line is when things become insults and hateful. Hate is the stuff the conservatives did toward him and the ridiculous stuff Obama had to go through from Republicans. The constant insults from them and Fox News. That's hate. What he did with the drone strikes and killing of American citizens and and other civilians abroad amount to war crimes just as much as they would under a Republican Administration. Rules have to be applied consistently, or else what's the point? So because he was the first Black President, he gets a pass on things like that? Pointing out these facts and some of the things he did that were wrong is not being hateful. It also doesn't mean you can't like him or appreciate him. You seem to not understand the distinction here. I for one appreciate Obama and loved him as President. But, I'm not so blind in that to ignore the things he did that were wrong, and not criticize him for them. Maybe you should do the same. Smdh.. 1 hour ago, Morphine Prince said: So we can't criticize Obama's terrible foreign policy decisions involving drones? He is not and will never be above criticism. 1 hour ago, Gagaloo92 said: Please. I know and have heard from plenty of Black people who criticize Obama and were not happy with how he governed. Like just because he's Black doesn't mean all Black people have to agree with him and be okay with what he did. That doesn't mean they don't like him or hate him! That belief makes no damn sense. EVERY politician deserves criticism and is not always right, including Bernie and including Obama. You can both appreciate Obama and criticize him for specific policies. These things are not mutually exclusive. So tell me then “All Knowing Ones” when was the last time ANY of you said ANYTHING positive about Obama?? Because all I hear daily & since he left office “Republican Healthcare Plan”, “Droner & Chief”, “Deporter & Chief”, “Establishment Corporate Democrat”, “Warmonger”, “War-Criminal”, “Didn’t Accomplish Anything”, etc. I mean you guys criticize him almost more than the Republicans/FAUX News do! I mean almost ANYONE who isn’t Bernie you guys dump on! Hillary, Obama, Bill, Nancy, Warren, Buttigieg, Biden, Klobuchar, etc. But then praise homophobes like Tulsi Gabbard! SMFH Egypt. W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn MonHoe 11,011 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, Gagaloo92 said: Well I was mostly referring to those that user was claiming to be hateful against Obama, but yea this ain't okay. And to think they want to come for Bernie when he's always played fair and never stooped to that sort of level even in 2016. Same can't be said of Hillary who these same people love to defend.. She's the real dirty one with a questionable history. I know, I just wanted to bring up Clinton’s disgusting behavior since obviously no centrist on this site will say anything about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,655 Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 20 minutes ago, En_Sabah_Nur said: So tell me then “All Knowing Ones” when was the last time ANY of you said ANYTHING positive about Obama?? Because all I hear daily & since he left office “Republican Healthcare Plan”, “Droner & Chief”, “Deporter & Chief”, “Establishment Corporate Democrat”, “Warmonger”, “War-Criminal”, “Didn’t Accomplish Anything”, etc. I mean you guys criticize him almost more than the Republicans/FAUX News do! I mean almost ANYONE who isn’t Bernie you guys dump on! Hillary, Obama, Bill, Nancy, Warren, Buttigieg, Biden, Klobuchar, etc. But then praise homophobes like Tulsi Gabbard! SMFH I for one dislike Tulsi and think she should drop out, so.... Those are all fair criticisms of Obama, I don’t see the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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