Doctor Mike's Opinion on Gaga's Stance on Medication

[Ally Campana 15,284]

I’m siding with Gaga here. Certain meds can cause suicidal tendencies as a side effect. I think it’s more safer and logical for a well-trained psychiatrist to prescribe the meds in regards to mental health. The only part I agree with him is about money since not everyone has the resources. 

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3 hours ago, Edonis said:

You're correct, but they do play distinct roles clinically in terms of what types of treatment they're allowed to offer. And my comment was more aimed at Dr. Mike himself; he has a pretty bad reputation among clinicians and researchers in the medical and scientific community due to his sponsorship deals and advertisements (which offer a conflict of interest)  as well as plain wrong medical advice. 

But thanks for pointing that out, I didn't want to make my comment look like I was shaming DO's over MDs and vice versa! 

Like I said though, clinically there is no difference between what a DO and MD can offer. It's just a common misconception.

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Reading some comments on here and ones on his videos saying that that she's telling people to do what's working for her ... I just cannot stop laughing! Why I find it funny is because, I remember watching the video and she kept repeating that's she's talking from personnel experience and that it is what's working for her and her alone ... I was like "girl we get, no need to repeat that non stop" (even Oprah said the same thing!) ...  BUT APPARENTLY  

and she's also acknowledged that not everybody got the same resources as  her and is just trying to fight the stigma that's around mental health issues (for now...)

and to see that most of you apparently got that that same thing from the video... and this kind of thing happens to her all the freaking time too! this is incredible     

 

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5 minutes ago, SimplyTheBest said:

Reading some comments on here and ones on his videos saying that that she's telling people to do what's working for her ... I just cannot stop laughing! Why I find it funny is because, I remember watching the video and she kept repeating that's she's talking from personnel experience and that it is what's working for her and her alone ... I was like "girl we get, no need to repeat that non stop" (even Oprah said the same thing!) ...  BUT APPARENTLY  

and she's also acknowledged that not everybody got the same resources as  her and is just trying to fight the stigma that's around mental health issues (for now...)

and to see that most of you apparently got that that same thing from the video... and this kind of thing happens to her all the freaking time too! this is incredible     

 

This 👆🏼. She did her part by articulating again and again that consulting a healthcare provider is a personal conversation, as everyone is different. Dr. Mike may be right about primary care physicians being qualified to treat depression, but that doesn’t discredit how candid, passionate, and vulnerable Gaga was during the interview. As far as this whole thing is concerned, Gaga wanted to lift the veil and remove the stigma about mental health and she did just that by generating conversation. 

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12 minutes ago, aussypat said:

Like I said though, clinically there is no difference between what a DO and MD can offer. It's just a common misconception.

You look like a doctor in your pic.

Did you sign up just to post on this thread?

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1 minute ago, Chickens in Malibu said:

You look like a doctor in your pic.

Did you sign up just to post on this thread?

Lol no I've had an account and this thread is just interesting because I am a medical student as well as a gaga stan

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5 minutes ago, aussypat said:

Like I said though, clinically there is no difference between what a DO and MD can offer. It's just a common misconception.

In how they approach patient care and their exact training (the whole body approach in osteopathic medicine versus symptomatic approach for allopathic medicine, the emphasis on the muscoskeletal system for healing, a lot of holistic medical approaches, etc.), there are fundamental differences.  I realize you're in medical school as a student, but I also taught in a medical school while doing my graduate work. They generally do function similarly in the US and most western countries, but globally there are limitations on what they're allowed to practice. I know for a fact in the hospital I work in, there are residency programs that only accept 1 or 2 DO residents per cycle for the entire department. That's what I mean in variance between the two. 

And I bring up D.O.'s in the first place because this guy is a D.O. and most D.O.s practice primary medicine. There is a slight bias in his presentation of information. 

Again, I'm not ragging on D.O. physicians; there is a reason why they're on the rise in the country and why more schools are starting to offer osteopathic tracks for students. I think a lot of medical science is leaning to more whole-body approaches as opposed to the traditional system by system approach anyways. I just want to make sure people reading this thread are aware of these sorts of things, since, as you pointed out, very few people know about the medical and biomedical communities. 

[Ally Campana 15,284]

 

 

[Chickens in Malibu 7,873]

4 minutes ago, Ally Campana said:

 

 

It didn't take long for LMs to start doing clownery on Twitter and drag Dr Mike who is a literal angel on earth.

Stop pls

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For those of you gaybies who care:

My relationship with anxiety and depression is incredibly personal. Born mostly from trauma at a young age, it manifested into a dark monstrosity that I have had to proactively keep in check my entire life. Now at 26, I understand that experiencing mental illness is as unique to every person as there are different people in the world. Depression is an overall encompassing experience including numbness, lack of motivation, overeating, etc. Same with anxiety. I have friends and family members who would not be here today if it wasn't for medication.

I have never used medication, but I can definitely see why it has such a sigma against it. My relationship with my mental illness is unique as everyone else's. It's different in the way I can not only manage it proactively through exercise, therapy, and creativity, but I also have an absolutely incredible support system. These people I know do not, and Lady Gaga being a celebrity probably deals greatly with isolation. Think whatever you'd like, but we have to remember that criticizing someone else's healing experience, whether that's they gym, medication, taking a hike, or talking to therapists, has no value. We need to talk more about the various solutions rather than antagonizing certain ones. If you are reading this and struggle with mental illness, your experience is most likely completely different than mine.

For those of you who cannot afford medication or therapy, these are only some solutions that work for others but not all. They are by no means the "best" or "worst" only different. Here are some helpful resources for you guys who need someone to talk to:

National 24-Hour Crisis Hotlines

Phone

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline:
1-800-273-TALK (8255)

National Substance Use and Disorder Issues Referral and Treatment Hotline:
1-800-662-HELP (4357)

Text

Text the word "HOME" to 741741

 

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38 minutes ago, Chickens in Malibu said:

Dr Mike who is a literal angel on earth.

Oh please, he’s just another attention-seeker riding Gaga’s fame for clout.

[Runway 27,876]

People with mental health issues go to primary care doctors? This is all news to me, what gaga said didn’t sound strange at all, psychiatrists Study years to treat these issues.

[Rudz Xinc 7,929]

That's why she just need to do what she's best at which is making music, and leave those mental health issues to the professionals. It ain't her field.

and some of you here talking like you're licensed doctors and psychiatrists. You ain't qualified to give medical advice.

[Magui 2,600]

3 minutes ago, Runway said:

People with mental health issues go to primary care doctors? This is all news to me, what gaga said didn’t sound strange at all, psychiatrists Study years to treat these issues.

It probably depends on the country, probably primary doctors are the first step to find a good specialist (my experience) and probably in some countries it's very difficult to find a specialist or it costs a lot of money.... What my family doctor did was sending me to an appointment with a specialist. 

 

[Magui 2,600]

1 minute ago, RudzXinc said:

That's why she just need to do what she's best at which is making music, and leave those mental health issues to the professionals. It ain't her field.

and some of you here talking like you're licensed doctors and psychiatrists. You ain't qualified to give medical advice.

This is so unnecessary... She was sharing her experiences, many times she said it was what worked for her. Nothing she said is invalid. Quite contrary i think she is doing a great work talking about mental health. There was times in my life that i couldn't even verbalize what i was feeling, cause i felt that people wouldn't understand or would think less of me.

As always people like to nick pick everything, and almost invalidate the good thing she does talking about mental health. Yes professionals are the ones that could give the best advice, scientific researched, etc, but she does more good the harm talking about her experience. 

(Sorry to comment all this while quoting you, I'm generally speaking)