Doctor Mike's Opinion on Gaga's Stance on Medication

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3 minutes ago, Gagaloo92 said:

The US is not Portugal, and is not Canada. 

I do not know the requirements in the US. I know that more recent graduates are starting to be required to have that kind of training now. 

That doesn't mean it's readily the case though. The US is a massive country. 

Also, in my own experiences I had to go to a therapist who would refer what drugs I should be on to my doctor who would then prescribe me them. 

My doctor wasn't the one making the diagnosis or deciding the drugs since they didn't have the training. 

All of what ur saying are valid points but they literally do not change the reality

 

There's not enough phychiatrists right now for every single person and some ppl can't even afford them at all

 

U said so itself the US system is effed up

 

If someone cannot get access to a specialist are u suggesting a family doctor should just ignore them and do nothing???? Is it not better for them to still do what they can to the best of their ability even if it's much more limited than what a phychiatrist can do?

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1 minute ago, ChromeAngel said:

All I’m going to say is that all of the primary care doctors I’ve had have been so reckless and naive about prescribing me ssri’s, mood stabilizers, and anxiety medication. Most of them seemed to have no idea what they were doing and it has lead me to very terrible and dark times in my life. When I was 18 I was put on Zoloft and it made me very suicidal, which is a known side effect when given to teenagers or children. 

I saw a legit psychiatrist for awhile and it was an entirely different experience. While the other doctors seemed to pick meds at random and hope for the best, the psychiatrist was going in with real educated guesses and she understood the importance keeping an eye on me. She explained the medications on a much deeper level than the others. 

This this this this. 

My psychiatrist did specific tests to view which medicine was even going to work out for me via studying medicines and correlations to specific demographics. My doctor thought I needed to take vitamins LMAO. 

[Edonis 25,995]

I mean I get both sides and I think discourse around the topic is entirely diluted from what it really should be about.

Beyond just insurance and health accessibility, there are fundamental flaws within the medical (and by extent, scientific) communities regarding the roles of primary care providers and specialist physicians. You 100% should trust your PCP and should go to them first about any problem. However, PCP often times do overstep their expertise and venture into territories that they, to be quite frank, don't have the training to compensate for.

Additionally, mental health care and treatment is regularly overlooked by PCP, and are often times ridiculed and ignored. The simple fact of the matter is, many physicians and scientists don't take mental health as seriously as they should. It's incredibly complicated.

Adding to this, Gaga did kind of word things weirdly, and, as a person from a biomedical background, I would hope she steer clear of these kinds of conversations if she isn't going to properly check sources and diction. The language you use in these kinds of conversations are incredibly pertinent, and while she isn't posing as a mental health expert, it's essential that you have a good understanding  of all angles before going so hard for advocacy. I don't think she's wrong, but I don't think she shared a complete picture. 

As for this "Doctor" and his YouTube channel...heh heh...no. He's hardly one to talk about misinformation given his really really poor track record. Considering he has a degree in osteopathic medicine (a DO) but routinely ventures into subjects that would require an MD-expertise, his recommendations on these subjects shouldn't be taken any more seriously than a health coach or  advisory. 

 As a general rule, stay away from "celebrity physicians". Stay far, far away from them. 

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5 minutes ago, MrG1087 said:

The other thing people fail to realize is that some doctors may have a bias and feel that mental health is very much still a tabu thing to discuss. I actually had a friend tell me that his PCP gave him prescriptions for his mental health concerns and when he started seeing a psychiatrist, she prescribed something completely different. In a nutshell, his PCP gave him the wrong meds and the wrong dosage. 

Phychiatrists can make those mistakes too tho that doesn't mean general practitioners are total idiots

 

It's well known that each person reacts differently to each drug and dosage and experimentation is often necessary

 

When I finally got my referral my specialist only got it right for me on the 3rd attempt

[Mister G 9,165]

2 minutes ago, Edonis said:

I mean I get both sides and I think discourse around the topic is entirely diluted from what it really should be about.

Beyond just insurance and health accessibility, there are fundamental flaws within the medical (and by extent, scientific) communities regarding the roles of primary care providers and specialist physicians. You 100% should trust your PCP and should go to them first about any problem. However, PCP often times do overstep their expertise and venture into territories that they, to be quite frank, don't have the training to compensate for.

Additionally, mental health care and treatment is regularly overlooked by PCP, and are often times ridiculed and ignored. The simple fact of the matter is, many physicians and scientists don't take mental health as seriously as they should. It's incredibly complicated.

Adding to this, Gaga did kind of word things weirdly, and, as a person from a biomedical background, I would hope she steer clear of these kinds of conversations if she isn't going to properly check sources and diction. The language you use in these kinds of conversations are incredibly pertinent, and while she isn't posing as a mental health expert, it's essential that you have a good understanding  of all angles before going so hard for advocacy. I don't think she's wrong, but I don't think she shared a complete picture. 

As for this "Doctor" and his YouTube channel...heh heh...no. He's hardly one to talk about misinformation given his really really poor track record. Considering he has a degree in osteopathic medicine (a DO) but routinely ventures into subjects that would require an MD-expertise, his recommendations on these subjects shouldn't be taken any more seriously than a health coach or  advisory. 

 As a general rule, stay away from "celebrity physicians". Stay far, far away from them. 

You just slayed this entire thread. Thank you for your input. 

[Sorcerer 10,559]

Doctor Mike has a point and I do disagree with Gaga's statements. I'm from a third world country and we only have TWO psychiatrists in a province with an almost 3 million population, and we're not even that far from the capital. So the best source of medical advice are general doctors. 

However, I think Doctor Mike should've complimented Gaga on the video (not only on the description) about the right things she was saying and the general awareness and importance she is giving to mental health. Gaga isn't always right on everything just as anyone else, she isn't an expert on every matter, but I still really appreciate her dedication for mental health awareness.

[Chickens in Malibu 7,873]

Can we talk about how cute Dr Mike is?

I want him to give me a hug. The way he speaks is so comforting. Like when even when he's being shady and scolding Gaga, he's still being cute.

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1 hour ago, OBEY said:

But have you watched his video ? he said they have some training for that.. 

They have basic training in that. Generally they will prescribe generic stuff in small doses such as Xanax, which is part of the reason it's become such an issue. 

If someone is bipolar and goes in during a depressive episode simply saying "I'm feeling depressed", a doctor should not give out the basic "Here's some Xanax and Zoloft". No. 

With mental health issues, they need a licensed professional within the mental health field to have multiple sessions with them to determine an initial "trial" of treatment. 

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1 hour ago, Gov Hooka said:

This is not true at all. Primary care physicians DO have the expertise and training to diagnose mental health problems and provide basic care, which in some cases include prescriptions for antidepressants. My father is a family practice physician and mother is a psychiatrist and I have asked them lol

Basic care, sure. 

If you have a schizophrenic walking into your dad's office tho...how could he possibly set up a long term treatment plan for something like that after meeting with someone for like 20 minutes?

(Not attacking, just generally curious since you legit have two parents within the fields) 

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1 minute ago, Doot said:

Basic care, sure. 

If you have a schizophrenic walking into your dad's office tho...how could he possibly set up a long term treatment plan for something like that after meeting with someone for like 20 minutes?

(Not attacking, just generally curious since you legit have two parents within the fields) 

Let's not diverge from the main topic here please, which is just how cute Dr. Mike is.

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A bitch can’t win

[BlingNotTheMusic 25,977]

She says in the full video though that she recognizes not everyone has the means to get medicine or a psychiatrist/psychologist...

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3 hours ago, nenhures said:

And your title only invites toxicity, come on now 

Wait are you talking about my thread or Doctor Mike's video oof lol, I can't see the link.

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Just now, WholesomeOOf said:

Wait are you talking about my thread or Doctor Mike's video oof lol, I can't see the link.

No, I wasn't referring to you. Someone had made another thread on the subject and I was telling them it was AP. The mods merged it so you can't see it anymore. You're good.

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4 minutes ago, nenhures said:

No, I wasn't referring to you. Someone had made another thread on the subject and I was telling them it was AP. The mods merged it so you can't see it anymore. You're good.

Ahhhh okay thanks.