Shaney 5,515 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 34 minutes ago, RAMROD said: Go and run with scissors, BernieBros. Run with it. I don’t see you responding with anything of substance, yet you’re shaming and name-calling why? You probably don’t even know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helxig 45,336 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 hours ago, MrG1087 said: That’s because here in the United States the Popular Vote doesn’t determine who gets elected. We still operate using the Electoral College as the deciding factor in electing a president. I'm sorry but what a ****ed system if the majority of the citizens voted for one person then that person should become president... that person won the vote I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 117,022 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bae said: I don’t see you responding with anything of substance, yet you’re giving in to shaming and name-calling. And why? You probably don’t even know. One time, as I jogged in early morning, I threw a pebble into an empty tin trash can, the sounds it made were actually very loud. That was something. (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ ᶠʳᵒⁿᵗ ᵗᵒʷᵃʳᵈ ᵉⁿᵉᵐʸ (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaney 5,515 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 minute ago, RAMROD said: One time, as I jogged in early morning, I threw a pebble into an empty tin trash can, the sounds it made were actually very loud. That was something. Ummmm okay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaney 5,515 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Helxig said: I'm sorry but what a ****ed system if the majority of the citizens voted for one person then that person should become president... that person won the vote Right? That’s why a lot of people want the electoral college abolished! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, KleinGa said: Misogynistic Bernie finally coming out. Not that different from his fans I hate to pull this "card" so to speak, but I've been a feminist advocate and activist for like a decade of my life so far, and most of my feminist friends and allies support Bernie Sanders because his policies are the best ones for women economically and socio-politically. So, I find it laughable to suggest that a bunch of people are misogynists because they want Universal Health Care or because they had the gall to run against Hillary Clinton, a woman, in 2016, or to tell Elizabeth Warren to run in 2016. Furthermore, the average "Bernie Bro" is probably a mid twenties Latina woman or a Working class person that makes <50k a year, just by the facts of polling demographics, so have fun with that one! ~~~ In all honesty, this just makes me feel that, ironically, for all the #VoteBlueNoMatterWho folks, this is just giving Joe Biden the nomination, and Trump the general election, so I was probably wrong to get back into political activism after I was burned in 2016, so I guess I'm the clown for believing that people wanting change was enough to overcome people who want to keep things as they are 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 10 hours ago, Gagaloo92 said: So you're coming with something that was debunked and shown as false? Lmaooo YIKES Not surprising if this coming from someone who doesn't care for Bernie. Also, defending progressives against blatant smears and lies, or showing how someone's POV is incorrect isn't turning someone into an enemy lol wuuuut. Oh the irony that I'm turning people into the enemy when apparently anyone who supports progressives and fights for progressive causes is a crazy Far Leftist. Make it make cents luv! Gurl the mental gymnastics. Simone Biles would be jealous. Especially since every other Bernie supporter thinks Nancy Pelosi and the party are out to get Bernie and therefore the enemy. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 7 hours ago, ItsTommyBitch said: 1) Sanders supporters would tell you that some people running for the Democratic nomination have Conservative political beliefs that are closer to Republicans than traditional Democrats. Are they just lying or what? 2) The only Good "Democrat" running in this race is the one who makes focusing on improving the lives of working and middle class people their priority, and not a back seat goal after corporatism. Why should Democrats continue to be the party of appeasing the rich and not helping the vast majority of people in this country? Serious responses only please. 3) It's only a purity test when someone cant meet them. I'm not going to apologize for having values or standards and not making excuses. It's not about "qualified" its about effectiveness. Is Joe Biden going to be a warrior fighting for the people that elected him regardless of their income or isn't he? Why should voters trust someone who has been dead wrong and even proudly wrong on most major policy issues in the last 30 years over someone who has been right? That seems silly to me 1. “Conservative” in Democrats is far, far from 99 per cent of the current Republicans in a National Office at this time. 2. There are several good Democrats in this race, some have already dropped out and some are still running. 3. I stand by my statement, the purity tests are cult-like and shortsighted. That’s what’s silly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Bae said: Pete and Biden are Republicans who have infiltrated the Democratic Party to move it further to the right, so you won’t be seeing me uniting with his supporters. Biden has been a Democrat longer than Bernie has had a real job. Biden was a Congressman when Bernie was a deadbeat dad and stealing electricity from his neighbors. If anyone has “infiltrated” the Democratic Party, it would be Bernie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraLove 1,281 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 12 hours ago, Luc said: I mean, it's doesn't have to be the corporate establishment. This weekend, Sanders started 'smearing' Warren (in party-political terms). This could be Team Warren's 'revenge'. I think that makes sense from a political perspective. Stating facts is not a smear, plus that “script” was not from the campaign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 7 hours ago, ItsTommyBitch said: That is what your comment suggests. Understanding that people play political games is not the question, no one here doesn't know that. The question is why are they playing these games, and who does it benefit? In this case, this benefits Joe Biden, to the detriment of Elizabeth Warren AND Bernie Sanders, so progressivism loses, and incrementalist, gradualist b.s continues to be the law of the land (well, if Joe were to even win, which I don't think he will ) Warren's official statement will be tomorrow, during the CNN hosted debate with the CNN hand picked audience where they line her up for a home run to give her an answer while Joe Biden smiles in the background having avoided any controversy right before Iowa, where it may line up with the announcement of the exact date of the impeachment trial, which will take Bernie + Warren out of the running, enough for Biden to potentially win Iowa and the nomination. Bernie's response was: Even if what you say it's true, that is something that happen to other candidates also, maybe even during the debates. If the truth is with Bernie, he will only gain from this. If not, he deserves to lose some points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 7 hours ago, HorusRa2 said: I’m just saying one of them ran a 2016 campaign after they begged the other to run against Clinton. That person didn’t run and didn’t endorse their friend. Meanwhile, the one that didn’t endorse their friend was talking to Clinton about a possible VP slot and making demands about keeping Wall Street executives out of the administration as a trade in for not endorsing their friend. So one does things out in the open and open and responded to this story immediately whereas the other went to the experts and crafted a statement and said, “I really don’t want to talk about this further.” If you believe Warren, you would have to be delusional to do so. Stop with this nonsense. It is disgusting how you treat Warren. Warren only wanted to not let Trump win and endorsed Hillary after Bernie couldn't win. Sometimes it is important to look at a bigger picture. Warren wanted to make a democrat president. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 How are you guys even arguing about this... The truth is clearly with Bernie here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 7 hours ago, ItsTommyBitch said: Obama world and Clinton world + Joe watching Bernie and Warren supporters eat each other alive like: It's almost like... Establishment politics hates progressivism just as much as Conservatives do! Like, Progressives are a threat to Corporatism, and Democrats are pro-corporatism. Ofc they will fight against it, while also applauding it for existing in theory. Sometimes I get the impressions, some of Bernie supporters hate more Biden, Obama, Hillary, Pete than Trump. Wake up people. This only has to do with Bernie and Warren. Stop changing the subject and accept that Bernie cant prove he didnt say it like Warren cant prove that he did it. It is all about feelings and this is the prove that a lot Bernie supporters have more feelings than facts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Buddy said: The first thing Biden did the day of his campaign launch was hold a fundraiser hosted by Comcast. Of course they wouldn't push the story, they're in bed with him! Biden is in bed financially with Comcast (NBC, Sky News) and Walt Disney Co. (ABC, ABC News) https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/contributors?id=N00001669 Buttigieg is in bed financially with Comcast (NBC, Sky News), AT&T (CNN, HLN), Walt Disney Co. (ABC, ABC News) https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/contributors?id=N00044183 Regardless of contributions, all mainstream media conglomerates will back establishment centrist corporate candidates, as they still protect their interests nonetheless You better show me one progressive media who is with Warren with this. It is disgusting that no one supports her, just because she said something that may be truth about Saint Bernie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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