Oriane 21,153 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 Joanne is safe, not that it was a bad thing. The only GGD member who can read / Credits to Celloo Deng for the profile pic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHALLOW 16,456 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 36 minutes ago, highlyreductive said: You missed C2C, which is the missing link here. It was exactly the proof she needed that everyone was dying to see (and hear) the girl behind the aura, if you will. Joanne was pretty safe both sonically and thematically, especially given the rise of white nationalism and the MAGA mentality in the USA at the time. I'm not saying the album came from a dishonest place – it obviously hasn't – but it was clever, nonetheless. It wasn’t safe from her fans tho. We did jot expect that sound and most of us didn’t even like it. I did like the sound but the concept was just not it for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHALLOW 16,456 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 I think ASIB is the safest cause is basically a little like Joanne but also has the pop bops that lms want Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, Quark said: For someone like Gaga to do something like Joanne, specially after ARTPOP is not very safe. What song sounded like perfect illusion when PI was released? Plus the album was never meant to be fully one genre, it was a mixture of many genres (and genres that are usually not put together). Well here's thing. Gaga has always released a single that sounds nothing like whats on the radio. At this point its very much expected that the radio is on one path and Gaga is on another. I already said that the album was meant to be a mix of genres, BUT it never went fully there. The tracks feel like they are demos and the instrumentals could go a lot further interms of the intention of the project. My all time favourite Lady Gaga song, Bloody Mary, is a great example of incorporating lots of genres but going all the way and hitting it hard. It had funk, pop, disco, and a little flavour of alternative WITH a choir. If BM was on Joanne, it would be much more tame than what it was. Joanne was a safe record because it didn't go anywhere. Infact, it felt like a record to pander to most Americans. If felt like Lady Gaga was starting her career all over again, and the whole 'regular girl' persona and the lackadaisical approach to her music was, in a way, prepping us for ASIB. She said herself, the goal of Joanne was to bring people together who couldn't connect with Gaga before to be like "wow I actually relate to her". I wouldn't call Joanne basic, but compared to her other works, it is basic. Literally, basic live instrumentation, lyrics about real life issues and honest vocals and boom, she accomplished the goal. Had Gaga released the original concept for the 5th album, THAT would be much more daring than Joanne. After ARTPOP, it was like "how do I prove to people that I am relatable in a way they haven't seen before?" and rather than keeping to the route of "daring, envelope pushing music", she chose a stripped back era End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Customzanotti 1,811 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 All of her records were safe Pompom hole n streets w/ ma heels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitter 14 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 Even her safest albums weren’t safe lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose P 23,341 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 32 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said: My all time favourite Lady Gaga song, Bloody Mary, is a great example of incorporating lots of genres but going all the way and hitting it hard. It had funk, pop, disco, and a little flavour of alternative WITH a choir. Bloody Mary is truly a perfect song Absolutely heavenly and eargasmic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Jose P said: Bloody Mary is truly a perfect song Absolutely heavenly and eargasmic. Hearing it full blast with headphones/earphones is an experience omg End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 39 minutes ago, SHALLOW said: I think ASIB is the safest cause is basically a little like Joanne but also has the pop bops that lms want Well yeah but ASIB is technically not a Gaga album End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I LOVE GGD 1,247 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Quark said: o<(0_0)>o In my opinion, Gaga has never released a safe album. Many people dismiss her music as just dance pop and EDM with her first 3 eras but when Gaga released The Fame, there weren’t many heavy dance pop albums at the top of the charts. When Gaga released The Fame monster, few pop albums had that dark, thematic, and industrial sound that most of the TFM had. Born this way was completely different to most of what other mainstream artist were releasing in 2011. From the lyrical themes (equality and religion) to the goth-rock, house, and 80s style mixture (even though now it is very popular to make 80s sounding songs), it was just a very unique album. Now with ARTPOP, many say that Gaga was just trying to follow the EDM trends (even though Gaga kind of help EDM get started), and yes, most of ARTPOP is EDM, but how many mainstream EDM songs sound like Aura? Or have lyrics like Swine? I mean who else would release a single with lyrics such as “pop culture was in art now art is in pop culture in me”. Moving on to Joanne, people say that Gaga was just playing it safe with a more tame country sound to appeal to the adult and American demographic but at that point Gaga was only known for crazy electronic music. It was never a given that people would just accept the new Gaga just because it has a “safer” sound with more radio friendly lyrics. But “safer” sound should only be taken lightly because who else would mix country, with folk, with electronic, with Bollywood, and with soul influences in the same album. In the lead single Peferct Illusion, Gaga sounds like a rock singer instead of a pop artist. Now with her side projects, Gaga decided to release an entire duets album with a Jazz legend instead of you know, looking for features with popular artists. And she also decided to sing and record songs with an actor that was never known as a singer. From big to small risks, the point here is that Gaga has always at least tried to provide something new to the mainstream that isn’t necessarily a safe choice for a mainstream artist like her. Maybe not safe but boring definitely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 27,349 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 C2C, Joanne and ASIB were all pretty safe releases. Although they were different from what she had released before, they are all extremely safe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Gaga 22,948 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Quark said: when Gaga released The Fame, there weren’t many heavy dance pop albums at the top of the charts. When Gaga released The Fame monster, few pop albums had that dark, thematic, and industrial sound that most of the TFM had. Blackout says hi tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floppy 7,951 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 If you really think about it everything Gaga does is risky because every move she made was something that was far from popular at the time of release. I guess her safest would be C2C for sure and maybe The Fame if I had to pick. When Gaga came out she shattered the scene and raised the bar forcing everyone to follow suit to keep up with her talent and creativity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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