Antichrist 9,818 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Just now, Widows Kiss said: Burning a MAGA hat doesn't spew hate against minorities. ahh, come up with a better excuse than that please. we were talking about hate crimes, not hate crimes against minorities only. so hate crimes against anyone else don't deserve that kind of punishment because they're not a minority. there's a word for that, not gonna use it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyPunkLover 2,120 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 This might turn against the LGBT community. "Just because you know my name, doesn't mean you know my game" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widows Kiss 7,818 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Antichrist said: ahh, come up with a better excuse than that please. we were talking about hate crimes, not hate crimes against minorities only. so hate crimes against anyone else don't deserve that kind of punishment because they're not a minority. there's a word for that, not gonna use it But this is a hate crime against minorities. He wouldn't have received 16 years if it wasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 24 minutes ago, Antichrist said: would you say the same for someone who burns, for example, a MAGA hat? 16 years to him for hate crime? MAGA and Trump supporters aren't protected classes/minority groups and therefore there's no such thing as a hate crime against them akin to LGBT people or African Americans who have had to deal with literally hundreds of years of violence, hate, and discrimination. Try again though Xoxo OT: This is great to set an example tbh. Not to mention he's a repeat offender and all those other crimes he did.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,935 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 11 hours ago, Squidward T said: I think 5 years is enough. I mean, I would say less than that but he is a repeat offender. Maybe 5 years of community service working with a pro lgbt advocacy group would be more beneficial. Setting aside what the right amount of time of punishment for a repeat offender is... I still don't get why in the 21st century we are still using jail as our main source of discipline. That's soooooooo outdated Making ppl stuck in a tiny cell 22 or more hours a day only creates mental illness, instability and many ppl come out doing the exact same things You'd think by now they would have come up with a better rehabilitation process Prison might make sense for extreme dangers to societies (Serial killers, rapists etc) but for most other crimes I'm sure we can come up with something else I don't get jail for drugs or tax fraud... Like what does a tiny crammed room have anything to do with it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoshLife 17,019 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Economy said: cereal killers oh honey... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoshLife 17,019 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 I'm not impressed by all the Little Strategists debating whether the sentence could "backfire" for the LGBT community. He set fire to someone else's property in order to intimidate a minority group. Not exactly a sympathetic figure. If our justice system sees him as enough of a threat to warrant being put away for that long, I won't be at the courthouse protests. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 6 hours ago, August3 said: That seems like too much. I agree, but I also don't care. You decided to spread hatred in this world, now you get the consequences. Sick and tired of people like him basically ruining this world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlopSlurper 34,336 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 39 minutes ago, Economy said: cereal killers 32 minutes ago, PoshLife said: oh honey... I'm screaminggggg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,935 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, FlopSlurper said: I'm screaminggggg 1 hour ago, PoshLife said: oh honey... I'm glad to see my spelling mistakes are always what interest people the most in my phylosophical posts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,935 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, kyanewest said: I agree, but I also don't care. You decided to spread hatred in this world, now you get the consequences. Sick and tired of people like him basically ruining this world I really don't know if it's too much or not in this particular case since we don't have full details of how extensive his past was and severity of previous actions etc But I find this attitude perplexing. Our justice system is supposed to be about justice so if it isn't fair we don't care? There's a lot of crimes that are shameful or even worse than what he did like murder or rape If we don't have to care about being fair with anyone that commits more than mild crimes than half of the people in jail could face an unfair sentence and we "don't care" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Economy said: I really don't know if it's too much or not in this particular case since we don't have full details of how extensive his past was and severity of previous actions etc But I find this attitude perplexing. Our justice system is supposed to be about justice so if it isn't fair we don't care? There's a lot of crimes that are shameful or even worse than what he did like murder or rape If we don't have to care about being fair with anyone that commits more than mild crimes than half of the people in jail could face an unfair sentence and we "don't care" You are absolutely right. Im just sick and tired of people spreading hate in this world and getting away with it. At least that'll scare off a lot of homophobes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Heart 15,041 Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 The State Attorney who sentenced the guy just deleted her Twitter account. ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreas85 400 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I believe burning a flag should be legal. It's just a piece of cloth and nothing else. Sentencing someone to jail for burning a flag is just pure fascism. "Hate crime" is also an obscure term that can be used to silence those who disagree with you. If I burn US flag am I committing "hate crime" against Americans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreas85 400 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 On 12/20/2019 at 4:32 PM, Widows Kiss said: But this is a hate crime against minorities. He wouldn't have received 16 years if it wasn't. This guy just destroyed a flag, he didn't kill or beat anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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