HorusRa2 5,005 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Link to Emerson Poll: https://t.co/8B2bV4O5m2?amp=1 If this is to be believed, this must be very fascinating to GGD that Mayor Pete and Warren supporters are more likely to vote for Trump over Dem Nominee than Biden AND Bernie. Does anyone have any ideas as to why that might be? My take is that the people supporting Pete and Warren generally have higher education and higher incomes. Since they are more comfortable and don't have to fight and work twice as hard as everybody else to put food on the table and pay bills, they're more willing to have Trump as our president. Maybe the democratic party should re-consider electing a technocratic white paper wine track candidate. What does GGD think of this new development? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,844 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 These ppl Warren's policies are not even remotely simmilar to Trump's with all the Centrists in between what's with the wild swing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoshLife 17,019 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Probably comes down to an antecedent variable: race. Buttigieg's and Warren's supporters are more likely to be white, and white people are more likely to vote for Trump. Age could also be a factor (Sanders has the youngest supporters and young people don't tend to like Trump), but then again Biden's supporters are the oldest according to the Emerson poll's tables, so age wouldn't explain it alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsches 17,550 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Sorry but this doesn't make any sense. I don't know who they are polling, but they must be dumb as **** or this poll is bullshit all together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlue 806 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 wtf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I mean, many Obama voters voted for Trump, so where is the shock coming from Warren, albeit half-assedly, is trying to run as a progressive and a populist economically. and Trump is an economic populist. Some people hate what Obama did for this country especially in the rust belt and midwest, and in their eyes, Trump is the best on the economy, so is it really surprising? A similar phenom happened in 2016 with Bernie - Democrats need to realize that part of expanding the electorate is getting politically disengaged, new people to vote and some of those new people might not be life long democrats at heart that share a worldview and political goals outside of what the candidate is campaigning on. It could be an outlier, but if it is not and the trend continues, you should probably learn from it rather than clutch your pearls at it The Sanders campaign has. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzGa 14,652 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 25 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said: Maybe the democratic party should re-consider electing a technocratic white paper wine track candidate. This quote is savage af What is a wine-track candidate? My old cat is a tough man, but i cant deny the way he bites my hand and he stabs me, he grabs me by my heart <3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, the Devil of Pop said: This quote is savage af What is a wine-track candidate? https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/10/politics/2020-democratic-primary-voters-joe-biden-elizabeth-warren-bernie-sanders/index.html The wine track candidates have drawn support primarily from well-educated, financially comfortable white voters, many of whom identify as independents rather than partisan Democrats, who are liberal on social and foreign policy issues but generally less focused on economic concerns. Just an excerpt from the article but you should read the whole thing as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen 5,430 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 i'm guessing these are people who vote using their gut rather than voting according to policy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,844 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said: https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/10/politics/2020-democratic-primary-voters-joe-biden-elizabeth-warren-bernie-sanders/index.html The wine track candidates have drawn support primarily from well-educated, financially comfortable white voters, many of whom identify as independents rather than partisan Democrats, who are liberal on social and foreign policy issues but generally less focused on economic concerns. Just an excerpt from the article but you should read the whole thing as well. True this could make sense... Economy isn't going to be everyone's top priority that could explain it Still such a drastic swing tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Heart 15,041 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Jesus Christ. "BuT P3Te's a Pr0gressive!$#" Also that number on Warren surprised me too. ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franch Toast 27,737 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I'm a Warren supporter who most assuredly will never ever vote for Trump. I'd rather vote for Creepy Uncle Joe. I'd even bite my lip and vote for Tulsi "Present" Gabbard. (And Bernie is my second choice, so rest assured I would definitely vote for him over Trump.) She/Her/Hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Togekiss 3,122 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Sounds like they have the potential to steal the most voters from Trump then... which we really need to do. Baskin Robbins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 30 minutes ago, Economy said: True this could make sense... Economy isn't going to be everyone's top priority that could explain it Still such a drastic swing tho It’s still only 10/12% which is in line with the supposed amount of Bernie supporters who moved to Trump in 2016. It’s one of the reasons I was motivated to make this thread. To show that the amount of people who might defect to Trump isn’t that surprising and is relatively universal across candidates. Albeit, Bernie is the exception I’d say this time per the polling and is one reason why people still bitter from 2016 should calm the tensions over 2016 and move forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,844 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 45 minutes ago, Franch Toast said: I'm a Warren supporter who most assuredly will never ever vote for Trump. I'd rather vote for Creepy Uncle Joe. I'd even bite my lip and vote for Tulsi "Present" Gabbard. (And Bernie is my second choice, so rest assured I would definitely vote for him over Trump.) I'm also a Warren supporter i think she has the best balance between getting more wealth redistribution and important services to help tackle wealth inequality but without going to the point of chocking private sector investment too much (which is what I'm worried would happen with Bernie) i will say tho that when it comes to military spending ideals and foreign policy, I prefer Bernie... Warren would be near perfect in my books if she was more pro military cuts like Bernie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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