Hybrid AT 78 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Oh you LOVE to see it While online echo chambers are busy canceling Pete, Pete is busy working hard on the ground and rising in polls everywhere. First openly gay POTUS is on the move folks. @Whispering @En_Sabah_Nur @JusKeepBreathin @Bonkers @RAMROD "I was protected by the monks of Azarath, I was raised by my friends. They are my family, this is my home and you are not welcome here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, PoshLife said: You are conflating two different statistics. Yes, voter turnout among young people jumped from 2014 to 2018 (comparable mid-term election years; you wouldn't compare 2016 to 2018). BUT, voter turnout was still far higher among older age groups than younger. It is completely reasonable for a polling firm to include more older people than younger. You can learn more here: https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2019/04/behind-2018-united-states-midterm-election-turnout.html I'm well aware that caucus states look different from primary states (caucuses should be abolished, by the way, and I'm glad to see some states take steps to do that since they're exclusionary). But you're also aware that the demographic differences between who participates in caucuses vs. ballot primaries did not stop Hillary Clinton from getting FAR, far, far more votes than Bernie Sanders three years ago. At any rate, you don't look like Miss Cleo, so I'm going to take your prediction for voter turnout in the 2020 primaries with a grain of salt if you don't mind. Well, I think I should clarify. When I say younger, I mean under 50. In the midterms, the over 50 demo was out voted. The polls generally over sample voters over the age of 65. The average age of cable news viewers are in their 60s. The candidates that cable news talks about favorably are doing great right now (Pete) and perform worse when they get negative coverage (Bernie and Warren). Bernie does amazing with under 39 and is competitive through the under 50. However, you’re never going to see his support fully reflected when you have polls using 70% of people over 65. Also, caucus states always saw Bernie overperform and it’s because of the energy behind his campaign. You can take this with a grain of salt but I’ll be laughing all the way to the bank come February. Also, trying to be petty like you are is really amusing because all of my arguments are based on facts. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/05/29/gen-z-millennials-and-gen-x-outvoted-older-generations-in-2018-midterms/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, HybridAT said: Oh you LOVE to see it While online echo chambers are busy canceling Pete, Pete is busy working hard on the ground and rising in polls everywhere. What's shooking to me is the fact that Booker is polling at 3% and Harris at 5% with Blacks but Pete is polling at 4% and the media says he is doing terrible. Shocking that Bernie followers and the media are exaggerating. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 118,077 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, HybridAT said: Oh you LOVE to see it While online echo chambers are busy canceling Pete, Pete is busy working hard on the ground and rising in polls everywhere. First openly gay POTUS is on the move folks. @Whispering @En_Sabah_Nur @JusKeepBreathin @Bonkers @RAMROD Yussss. I also busy converting my people for donating to Boot Edge Edge. And they wondering why Pete is quickly rising in the poll while they are busy putting down somebody sksksksksk #clowns Just like Gaga said, people always talks, so let’s give them something to talk about. (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ ⁱᵐ'ᵐᵃ ʰⁱᵗ ᵈᵉᶠʳᵒˢᵗ ᵒⁿ ʸᵃ, ˡᵉᵗ'ˢ ᵍᵉᵗ ⁱᵗ ᵇˡᵃᶻⁱⁿᵍ﹗ (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoshLife 17,019 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said: Well, I think I should clarify. When I say younger, I mean under 50. In the midterms, the over 50 demo was out voted. The polls generally over sample voters over the age of 65. The average age of cable news viewers are in their 60s. The candidates that cable news talks about favorably are doing great right now (Pete) and perform worse when they get negative coverage (Bernie and Warren). Bernie does amazing with under 39 and is competitive through the under 50. However, you’re never going to see his support fully reflected when you have polls using 70% of people over 65. Also, caucus states always saw Bernie overperform and it’s because of the energy behind his campaign. You can take this with a grain of salt but I’ll be laughing all the way to the bank come February. Also, trying to be petty like you are is really amusing because all of my arguments are based on facts. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/05/29/gen-z-millennials-and-gen-x-outvoted-older-generations-in-2018-midterms/ I can't even tell what your point is. I think you're trying to grasp at straws to discount this poll. Like, we have the crosstabs, we can see that he polls fairly well among Gen X'ers. And yes, he's in fourth among the youngest age bracket, which you still haven't convinced me is going to make a substantial difference next year (since they were lumped in with Gen X'ers in that Pew article about turnout you linked me to). But even if younger voters again have an unprecedented turnout, I'll remind you that Hillary Clinton won the primary despite Sanders having younger voters on lock. And I don't see where it says that this poll was 70% 65+. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen 5,430 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 wow warren fell 14 percent. damn lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, PoshLife said: I can't even tell what your point is. I think you're trying to grasp at straws to discount this poll. Like, we have the crosstabs, we can see that he polls fairly well among Gen X'ers. And yes, he's in fourth among the youngest age bracket, which you still haven't convinced me is going to make a substantial difference next year (since they were lumped in with Gen X'ers in that Pew article about turnout you linked me to). But even if younger voters again have an unprecedented turnout, I'll remind you that Hillary Clinton won the primary despite Sanders having younger voters on lock. And I don't see where it says that this poll was 70% 65+. My point is that these polls aren’t accurate because they are fundamentally not designed correctly. This is ONE poll & y’all wanna ignore other polls like Emerson that has Bernie tied in first and Pete in a distant 4th. One poll doesn’t mean anything. The aggregate of polling still shows Pete in a distant 4th. Also, I didn’t say THIS poll had over 70% over 65. I used an example of a NH poll that recently had a Pete surge too that did. Jesus. My point is simple: the polling methodology isn’t going to pick up all the voters that show up on voting day. Only “likely” voters based on historical trends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Looks like Warren is losing her support to Biden and Pete. I would imagine she is losing her moderates and retaining her liberals. Those Biden supporters aren’t going anywhere, it seems. Hope he picks a good VP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankhatesyouall 2,731 Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 11 hours ago, ItWasntLaauv said: I would literally give everything to have Yang rise in the polls, but instead, a cringey, out of touch, corrupt gay is. Yang is the definition of cringeworthy. He is literally trying to buy votes with "free money" while sticking to that geek guy image Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,998 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Warren's support plummeted by 50%. Yikes. https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/26/warren-nosedives-buttigieg-climbs-poll-074054 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachinko 10,772 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I'm for daddy Pete for president. Gays for Pete! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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