Marilyn MonHoe 11,011 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 President Donald Trump offered a vague threat to pull California's federal aid for combating dangerous wildfires on Sunday, sparking a response from Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom as the pair traded barbs through the day. "The Governor of California, @GavinNewsom, has done a terrible job of forest management," Trump tweeted early Sunday. "I told him from the first day we met that he must 'clean' his forest floors regardless of what his bosses, the environmentalists, DEMAND of him. Must also do burns and cut fire stoppers. Every year, as the fire’s rage & California burns, it is the same thing-and then he comes to the Federal Government for $$$ help. No more. Get your act together Governor. You don’t see close to the level of burn in other states." It's unclear what fires Trump was referred to as the blazes that have ravaged California in recent weeks did not burn down any forests. Newsom on Sunday fired back, pointing to Trump's years-long denial of climate change and its environmental effects. "You don’t believe in climate change," Newsom tweeted. "You are excused from this conversation." Trump revisited the subject later Sunday afternoon, speaking to reporters on the White House South Lawn. Sunday was the first time Trump made significant mention of the California wildfires since the large-scale Kincade Fire broke out late last month. Trump has repeatedly taken aim at California since taking office nearly three years ago, often over environmental issues. He has previously criticized the state for not properly "raking" the forest floors to help prevent fires and threatened to cut off Federal Emergency Management aid. Experts have pointed to climate change-related reasons for the uptick in wildfire frequency and strength in recent years. Newsom last month praised the federal government's efforts in assisting with wildfire management. "I have nothing but good things to say about the federal government’s support," Newsom said, per the Los Angeles Times. "In fact, the Homeland Security acting director proactively called me two days ago to check in ... Hats off to them." Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-threatens-pull-federal-aid-california-wildfires-n1075866 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn MonHoe 11,011 Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 Only the Pro Life president would threaten to pull aid for wildfires that have killed at least three people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyanderson 379 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Some more general information on what causes the fires, how they are managed, if they are preventable and what all other proposed courses of action could be taken to address such would be greatly appreciated from any informed individuals (a Kansan speaking here). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister G 10,512 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Oh look threatening to pull aid. What else is new with this man? Seems to me that’s all he knows how to do; threaten until he gets his way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,974 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 I wanna say something about him and fire, but I don't want to get a WP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn MonHoe 11,011 Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 29 minutes ago, Edonis said: I wanna say something about him and fire, but I don't want to get a WP. Don’t worry we can connect the dots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Heart 4,400 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Deplorable "GGD IS NOT FOR YOU" - Admin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 14,017 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, luckyanderson said: Some more general information on what causes the fires, how they are managed, if they are preventable and what all other proposed courses of action could be taken to address such would be greatly appreciated from any informed individuals (a Kansan speaking here). Well so it can happen a number of ways but wildfires are just part of Southern California given its biome. It should not have people living in it given its relative inhospitable climate. Since it does it is going to be a risk, and that’s just a fact. Wildfires in this case aren’t caused by dirty forest floors, which is such a bizarre and asinine thing to say. It’s a forest. Trump is suggesting they maintain all the leaves and sticks that fall (essentially) saying that they’re basically tinder for the fire. The fires would happen anyway (and also as he makes cuts to the already gutted national parks, that becomes very difficult to do even if it were the issue). Climate scientists have pointed this out and it will only get worse and more frequent as climate change ramps up. It’s perennially dry there, hot, and windy which is perfect for fires to start. Trump is bucking the blame to Newsom’s leadership because he can’t say anything else that would admit to climate change being a factor. basically it’s another ridiculous and unfounded Trump accusation to fuel his spite for yet another person that hates him (in this case, the bulk of a state). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Oh wow, a fascist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,477 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Edonis said: I wanna say something about him and fire, but I don't want to get a WP. Oh darn how tragic and I was soooo looking forward to that warning OT: don't forget he offered aide to Putin for Russian wildfires but won't help California because no one there likes his stupid ass Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Of the 33 million acres of forest in California, federal agencies own and manage 19 million acres. That’s 58% of the forests of California. This is messaging to his cult, so they can hate on California, instead of having any kind of sympathy or empathy for people losing their homes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 14,017 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 11 hours ago, PartySick said: Oh darn how tragic and I was soooo looking forward to that warning OT: don't forget he offered aide to Putin for Russian wildfires but won't help California because no one there likes his stupid ass Even though a sizable portion LOVES him. Go northwest and his most ardent supporters anywhere are there. They want to secede. It’s kind of scary stuff if they weren’t also a bit neutered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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