Economy 52,839 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 https://www.google.ca/amp/s/oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Worlds-Biggest-EV-Market-Braces-For-Another-Crippling-Blow.amp.html China, the Country with the largest fleet of EVs has been gradually reducing subsities as the more sales climb the more expensive it is to keep subsidizing them all. This is significant considering China makes up nearly 50% of global EV sales However China is showing that EVs still struggle to compete on their own as their sales stagnate or fall the moment subsities are reduced In Canada in the largest Province Ontario a simmilar outcome of falling sales occured when the Province cancelled $4,000 subsities for brand new EVs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,839 Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 They really need to fall in price further and we really need to build more infrastructure to make charging them more convinient and easily available they are never gonna take off quickly on their own like this... Subsities become more expensive the higher the sales volume so the moment they reach a threshold governments are forced to reduce incentives and then they stagnate we need to make them more convinient and affordable so the market can grow without the dependance of subsities forever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderMagno 10,746 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 The electric vehicles propaganda sounds like a lot of talk and no action. At least in Europe, I think everyone already is very aware of the benefits of electric cars, but then you have very few infrastructures to support it. It's very hard to charge your car, specially if you're from outside of a big city, and even when you live there you will find only a few, never enough to support a fair amount of population. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,839 Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 minute ago, AlexanderMagno said: The electric vehicles propaganda sounds like a lot of talk and no action. At least in Europe, I think everyone already is very aware of the benefits of electric cars, but then you have very few infrastructures to support it. It's very hard to charge your car, specially if you're from outside of a big city, and even when you live there you will find only a few, never enough to support a fair amount of population. Thats a big issue some proponents say “well u can charge them at home” But what about people who rent and dont have access to a garage? What about people that live in apartments or condos? i dont own my own house so i would need to charge it somewhere else and hardly any plug-in locations exist in my city so am i suppostu drive several KM everytime to the nearest charging station eerytime i need a charge? even if i could afford the innitial investment to purchase it... i would not buy one now because it would be far too inconvenient and unpracticle once infrastructure for it becomes more common place, that may change things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conservative Mom 655 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 electric bus/coach are becoming common things in china while now i'm living in a city lack of efficient public transport despite it being the largest city of the country Suburban Dweller, Property Owner, Petrol Consumer and Range Shooting Enjoyer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curunir 7,510 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 hours ago, AlexanderMagno said: The electric vehicles propaganda sounds like a lot of talk and no action. At least in Europe, I think everyone already is very aware of the benefits of electric cars, but then you have very few infrastructures to support it. It's very hard to charge your car, specially if you're from outside of a big city, and even when you live there you will find only a few, never enough to support a fair amount of population. I don't know about which part of Europe you're talking about, but Western Europe has electric chargers in almost every village, including over 400 Tesla superchargers. There's also hundreds of chargers in the rest of Europe, so I don't see your point 2 hours ago, Economy said: Thats a big issue some proponents say “well u can charge them at home” But what about people who rent and dont have access to a garage? What about people that live in apartments or condos? i dont own my own house so i would need to charge it somewhere else and hardly any plug-in locations exist in my city so am i suppostu drive several KM everytime to the nearest charging station eerytime i need a charge? even if i could afford the innitial investment to purchase it... i would not buy one now because it would be far too inconvenient and unpracticle once infrastructure for it becomes more common place, that may change things Yes, that's the idea of having so many chargers. And making charge times extremely convenient (20 mins for 50% battery, 1 hr 15 mins full). Chargers are also placed near commercial areas so you always have somewhere to go or something to do while you charge your car (groceries, errands, coffee, restaurant, etc.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 35,053 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 The Walmart by my place have a special section of their parking lot that’s specifically for charging electric vehicles, but most people that park in those spots don’t even own electric cars, they just park there cause it’s closer to the enternece lmao OT: I wouldn’t expect China to be big on electric vehicles, although they should put more effort seeing as they’re one of the world’s biggest polluters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,839 Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 5 hours ago, ALGAYDO said: The Walmart by my place have a special section of their parking lot that’s specifically for charging electric vehicles, but most people that park in those spots don’t even own electric cars, they just park there cause it’s closer to the enternece lmao OT: I wouldn’t expect China to be big on electric vehicles, although they should put more effort seeing as they’re one of the world’s biggest polluters They are not “one of” they are the biggest polluters But extreme bad air quality is a big source of social discontentment there so for political approval reasons, the Government there has invested a lot of money in changing Coal plants to greener energy and electric cars were part of the solution also but recently they been trying to reduce expensive subsities to try to let the sector grow on its own two feet but it seems like its struggling to do so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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