Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Kween of deception Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylucifer 5,139 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Ok, I think we all have enough information from both sides to be able to form our own opinions on this mess. Do I believe we have all the information? no. definitely not. Do I think we will get that information? Probably not as it will probably reveal something that neither side wants out. But Taylor is a victim is this scenario. At the end of the day it was her work which she brought to life and she was never given the chance to buy it, the only way she would get it would be to sign with BM and then get sold to the highest bidder trapped for 6 more albums. At the end of the day Kanye did create a revenge **** music video which striped her body naked and she can be p*ssed over that AS WELL as being called a b*tch. Everyone distorts the truth to some degree, Taylor saying she woke up to the news could be true, but is also irrelevant. These deals happen over months. 5 days before won't change the deal and won't give her an opportunity what so ever. So is the whole truth bring told? No. But is Taylor in most ways in the right? Yes. Spoiler Also side note, if this was Gaga y'all would most certainly side with her and not Scooter, just saying. The Tortured Poets Department is out NOW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilmonzter 2,864 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I love Taylor But the victim schtick is getting old, kanye is a biatch and scooter maybe in the wrong but she's always posing as a victim Do a minaj and cuss them out or sue! Sing C'est la vie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Not everything is black and white. I'm starting to think it's really shitty of people to immediately see the bad in people and always look for the negativity, rather than take her word for it and it's not just because I'm a fan of Taylor. She literally wrote a post explaining how that man has hurt her and people just wanna be like boohoo get over it. She has a right to feel these things and I'm pissed off on her behalf about Kanye's naked revenge video. She's having to deal with petulant people making a mockery of her and the public seems to want to beat her down for sticking up for herself. Strong people can still be victims too, ya know and it's worse for her because she's in the public eye. I can't imagine how it feels to put your thoughts and feelings out there and have millions of people call you a liar. It's just drama to you and some juicy gossip to sell tabloids but for her it's her life. Don't get me wrong I do think she uses some of it to her advantage. But now it just seems like ever since she's been labelled as a snake it's hard for her to shake that image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentyGa 14,340 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 taylor is one of the most genuine, real artists out there. she may have been petty in the past, but to think she’d fabricate this all as an elaborate scheme for money...delusions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Bitch 278 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Imagine when she re-releases the albums the sales will double like crazy, **** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus 4,485 Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 4 hours ago, LilyLark said: You don't have to like Taylor, or even think she handled the situation well, to realize she's telling the truth. The dude from Big Machine basically admitted that the only way he would let her buy her master's back was if she recorded an album for each album she wanted to buy—which is insane. Read his statement. He explains: "We are an independent record company. We do not have tens of thousands of artists and recordings. My offer to Taylor, for the size of our company, was extraordinary. But it was also all I could offer as I am responsible for dozens of artists’ careers and over 120 executives and their families." Let's not pretend what he was asking of her was so unthinkable. He didn't ask that she sell her kidneys. He (like Ms. Swift), is thinking about what can make him more money. -𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐅𝐀𝐌𝐄 𝐄𝐍𝐈𝐆𝐌𝐀™ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodtimes12128 230 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Spartacus said: Read his statement. He explains: "We are an independent record company. We do not have tens of thousands of artists and recordings. My offer to Taylor, for the size of our company, was extraordinary. But it was also all I could offer as I am responsible for dozens of artists’ careers and over 120 executives and their families." Let's not pretend what he was asking of her was so unthinkable. He didn't ask that she sell her kidneys. He (like Ms. Swift), is thinking about what can make him more money. That's not even a counter-argument. You sympathize with a corporate man that didn't offer Taylor the chance to buy her masters like he did with Scooter. Scooter was offered a deal to purchase her masters. Taylor was offered a deal to "earn" her masters by recording 6 more albums, all while knowing if she re-signed her boss would sell the label anyways. Did you really start this whole thread to trash Taylor, 4 months after this drama came out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus 4,485 Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Goodtimes12128 said: That's not even a counter-argument. You sympathize with a corporate man that didn't offer Taylor the chance to buy her masters like he did with Scooter. Scooter was offered a deal to purchase her masters. Taylor was offered a deal to "earn" her masters by recording 6 more albums, all while knowing if she re-signed her boss would sell the label anyways. Did you really start this whole thread to trash Taylor, 4 months after this drama came out? I'm not sympathizing with anyone. lol I don't think either of them is trustworthy. That's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. She's lied and/or played the victim in other situations and I don't put it past her to do it again and again. This whole "I don't get bundles" thing is not true. She prides herself on being a great businesswoman, yet claims bundles confuse her... when she just finished doing a Lover phone case with free digital download bundle. ____________________________________________________ Katy exposed her as a Regina George, and we all know Katy is a Regina George herself, and BFF Regina Georges of-a-feather flock together. The difference with Katy is that she doesn't hide her shadiness. "Katy, 33, is believed to feel 'upset' because the introduction to the letter - which was published on Instagram on Tuesday - suggests Katy accepts 'full responsibility'. 'The thing is, you can only see part of what Katy wrote and it looks like she's taking sole responsibility for the entire feud. 'Without context, it looks like she's taking the blame for everything and obviously there's a lot more to it than that.' Swift - who began her Reputation tour that evening - specifically snapped part of the letter that read 'deeply sorry'. Perry, who dates Orlando Bloom, said in 2017, 'Honestly, it's really like she started it and it's time for her to finish it.' And Katy claims she 'tried to talk' to the blonde beauty about the feud some time ago, but claims she 'wouldn't speak' to her. Katy added: 'She wouldn't speak to me. I do the right thing anytime that it feels like a fumble. It was a full shut-down and then she writes a song about me and I'm like 'OK, cool, cool, cool. That's how you wanna deal with it?'' The hitmaker admits that her single Swish Swish is a direct 'reaction' to Taylor's, as she says the star has to learn about 'the law of cause and effect'. She continued: 'But, what I wanna say is that I'm ready for that B.S. to be done. Now, there is the law of cause and effect. You do something and there's going to be a reaction. And trust me daddy, there's going to be a reaction. It's all about karma.'" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5709199/Katy-Perry-upset-Taylor-Swift-posting-PRIVATE-apology-letter.html ____________________________________________________ She played victim when the Famous video dropped claiming she was disgusted by the lyrics, then when Kim exposed her she pivots and claims she was only offended that he called her a "bitch". Oh please! ____________________________________________________ And now she is talking about the big bad wolf Scooter, and surprise surprise she reminds everyone what Kanye and Kim did to her and then proceeds to promote her new album. ____________________________________________________ She claimed she was always brought to tears whenever in Scott's presence with Scooter's name was brought up, and yet Scott says that she never gave him that impression. ____________________________________________________ Y'all need to wake up. 7 hours ago, Lilmonzter said: I love Taylor But the victim schtick is getting old, kanye is a biatch and scooter maybe in the wrong but she's always posing as a victim Do a minaj and cuss them out or sue! She should, but she can't do that and play sweet innocent victim at the same time. -𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐅𝐀𝐌𝐄 𝐄𝐍𝐈𝐆𝐌𝐀™ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus 4,485 Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 9 hours ago, monsterboy98 said: of course she is lying. she's gets the perfect escape route here: she doesn't have to buy her music, and can rally international support to re-record her old music, rebuke the original masters and completely financially gain from her old music all over again. she planned this i believe. this is taylor "money-hungry" swift were are talking about here remember. https://youtu.be/nDzhoofkRJI watch from 5:25 - she is clearly lying, it's all over her body language. sorry it isn't embedding her father was an investor in the label for gods sake. -𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐅𝐀𝐌𝐄 𝐄𝐍𝐈𝐆𝐌𝐀™ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,104 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 14 hours ago, Spartacus said: Read his statement. He explains: "We are an independent record company. We do not have tens of thousands of artists and recordings. My offer to Taylor, for the size of our company, was extraordinary. But it was also all I could offer as I am responsible for dozens of artists’ careers and over 120 executives and their families." Let's not pretend what he was asking of her was so unthinkable. He didn't ask that she sell her kidneys. He (like Ms. Swift), is thinking about what can make him more money. But it's not an offer to let her buy her masters? An offer would be a strict financial transaction, and that was not what he offered her. Instead, he wanted her to "work" to get her master's back and tie her to his company for at least another 8-10 years. It would have been one thing if he straight up refused her, but instead he gave her basically an offer for indentured servitude—a multi-millionaire type of indentured servitude, but that's still what it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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