Prince Harry & Meghan announce legal action against tabloid Newspaper

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Although there are apparently problematic things about her I always see borderline racist/bullying posts about her from UK media. It’s disgusting. 

But then again you are the ones funding these people with your taxes. It’s idiocy. Royals shouldn’t exist in the 21st century. And those are the facts. These people didn’t do anything to deserve the position they have. You hate to hear it but it’s true. 

[StrawberryBlond 14,921]

26 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

Although there are apparently problematic things about her I always see borderline racist/bullying posts about her from UK media. It’s disgusting. 

But then again you are the ones funding these people with your taxes. It’s idiocy. Royals shouldn’t exist in the 21st century. And those are the facts. These people didn’t do anything to deserve the position they have. You hate to hear it but it’s true. 

Do you mean just the media or the public as well? Because I've genuinely never seen anything remotely racist from the media, it would be shut down so fast if there was. Most people didn't even realise she was mixed race when she was first identified as Harry's girlfriend, it's even been said she's more like a quarter black as opposed to half. So any concept of racism being present was always highly over-exaggerated. Trust me, I have read so many of the thousands of comments posted in articles about them on the DM (where there's supposedly so many racist commenters) over the last few years and we're talking 1% borderline racist posts amidst a sea of genuine complaints. And such comments are always heavily thumbed down. When that "comparing Archie to  a monkey" picture scandal happened, there was a wave of public support, nobody was laughing or thought it no big deal, the overwhelming response was "sack him." Even when it involves someone we don't like, most of us can see a bad situation for what it is and can tell when it's gone too far. If anything genuinely bad happened to Meghan, I believe that most detractors would put aside their personal feelings and empathise.

I don't mind the idea of paying for royals if they're doing a good job, follow protocol, don't over-spend. But it's going a bit far now. What I like about the royal family is that it makes the UK stand out as royalty is such a dying concept and it makes us different, they're an ingrained part of our culture. They also pull in crazy millions to our economy because of the amount of tourism they pull in. Some people travel to London purely to take photos outside Buckingham Palace. But I think royal houses need to be dramatically cut down, which most of Europe has already done, the UK's unusual is that minor royals far down the line are taxpayer-funded and deemed relevant. I don't think the 6th in line and his royal consort need to do foreign tours through the Commonwealth, that should be strictly reserved for the 1st and 2nd in line. If you don't stand a chance of ever ruling, you need to get a job, self-fund, that kinda thing. I don't remember previous 6th in lines being treated like superstars until now. Makes me think it's Meghan's doing, putting ideas into Harry's heads that he's the real star of this family, that they can modernise the royals and change the world. He wasn't into all this feminism/environmental/racial awareness wokeness before she came along. Of course these interests are great but suffice to say they don't come across natural for a guy who smoked cannabis and drank underage, got involved in altercations with paparazzi outside nightclubs, described his army comrades as racist names, wore a Nazi outfit for a Colonial and Native themed party and just a few years ago, was pictured with an unknown woman playing naked billiards in Vegas.

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Why didn't he sue Piers also while we at it? He is like professional provocateur. 

[Zander 14,911]

1 hour ago, Morphine Prince said:

But then again you are the ones funding these people with your taxes. It’s idiocy. Royals shouldn’t exist in the 21st century. And those are the facts. These people didn’t do anything to deserve the position they have. You hate to hear it but it’s true. 

The British monarchy contributes nearly £1.8 billion to the UK economy, including £550 million in tourism. I don't really care for the Royal Family but its up for debate whether they are worth the taxpayers money or not... and also how it would affect the economy or tourism if the monarchy was abolished.  

 

[Morphine Prince 106,734]

54 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Do you mean just the media or the public as well? Because I've genuinely never seen anything remotely racist from the media, it would be shut down so fast if there was. Most people didn't even realise she was mixed race when she was first identified as Harry's girlfriend, it's even been said she's more like a quarter black as opposed to half. So any concept of racism being present was always highly over-exaggerated. Trust me, I have read so many of the thousands of comments posted in articles about them on the DM (where there's supposedly so many racist commenters) over the last few years and we're talking 1% borderline racist posts amidst a sea of genuine complaints. And such comments are always heavily thumbed down. When that "comparing Archie to  a monkey" picture scandal happened, there was a wave of public support, nobody was laughing or thought it no big deal, the overwhelming response was "sack him." Even when it involves someone we don't like, most of us can see a bad situation for what it is and can tell when it's gone too far. If anything genuinely bad happened to Meghan, I believe that most detractors would put aside their personal feelings and empathise.

I don't mind the idea of paying for royals if they're doing a good job, follow protocol, don't over-spend. But it's going a bit far now. What I like about the royal family is that it makes the UK stand out as royalty is such a dying concept and it makes us different, they're an ingrained part of our culture. They also pull in crazy millions to our economy because of the amount of tourism they pull in. Some people travel to London purely to take photos outside Buckingham Palace. But I think royal houses need to be dramatically cut down, which most of Europe has already done, the UK's unusual is that minor royals far down the line are taxpayer-funded and deemed relevant. I don't think the 6th in line and his royal consort need to do foreign tours through the Commonwealth, that should be strictly reserved for the 1st and 2nd in line. If you don't stand a chance of ever ruling, you need to get a job, self-fund, that kinda thing. I don't remember previous 6th in lines being treated like superstars until now. Makes me think it's Meghan's doing, putting ideas into Harry's heads that he's the real star of this family, that they can modernise the royals and change the world. He wasn't into all this feminism/environmental/racial awareness wokeness before she came along. Of course these interests are great but suffice to say they don't come across natural for a guy who smoked cannabis and drank underage, got involved in altercations with paparazzi outside nightclubs, described his army comrades as racist names, wore a Nazi outfit for a Colonial and Native themed party and just a few years ago, was pictured with an unknown woman playing naked billiards in Vegas.

Mostly media. It’s these tabloids. I remember many basically implying Meghan Markle wasn’t as “classy” as Kate. Reminds of the same type of people who say Melania is “classy” and Michelle isn’t. Hmmm... wonder why? I remember all the praise Kate got and she was inescapable even in the US. I could’ve sworn I was living in the UK with the amount of press coverage the wedding and Kate got. It was insane. 

I honestly just don’t like the concept of royals. Although as @Zander said, there is an economic aspect to them. I guess it’s something that has to be evaluated. If there was an abolishment of these people and how that would affect the UK. 

To me most just seem like government sponsored celebrities. 

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21 hours ago, JustinTrudeau said:

I don't understand the hate for Meghan or why she's so heavily targeted by the tabloids. 

Good to hear that he's standing up to the press, because this is just plain disgusting.

Racism

[StrawberryBlond 14,921]

18 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

Mostly media. It’s these tabloids. I remember many basically implying Meghan Markle wasn’t as “classy” as Kate. Reminds of the same type of people who say Melania is “classy” and Michelle isn’t. Hmmm... wonder why? I remember all the praise Kate got and she was inescapable even in the US. I could’ve sworn I was living in the UK with the amount of press coverage the wedding and Kate got. It was insane. 

I honestly just don’t like the concept of royals. Although as @Zander said, there is an economic aspect to them. I guess it’s something that has to be evaluated. If there was an abolishment of these people and how that would affect the UK. 

To me most just seem like government sponsored celebrities. 

Comparing their classiness has always taken some explaining to outsiders. The Melania vs. Michelle thing is definitely more cut and dried because both were undoubtedly as respectable and well-dressed as the other and both were speaking correctly with good manners, so what has Melania got that Michelle hasn't? But Meghan vs. Kate...the differences are huge. Kate always dresses conservatively, appropriately, supports British designers, doesn't over-spend and re-uses clothes. Meghan has frequently worn skirts that are too short, shown too much skin, wears French/Italian/American labels but not much British, spends thousands on new clothes every year that she never wears twice, not even her maternity wardrobe. Kate has always had perfectly brushed and styled hair that's never out of place whereas Meghan has frequently had unkempt loose hair blowing in the wind or scrapes it into a messy bun with strands dangling in her eyes (yet, we've seen her in sleek buns before so we know it can be done). This isn't a dig at her natural hair, it's extensions right now anyway and she's relaxed it to the point where it's perfectly manageable, she just doesn't bother with making it look neat. Kate always follows protocol, never airs her political views or preaches, doesn't do moves for personal gain and uses formal language. Meghan has been flouting protocol from day one, frequently airs her political views and preaches, has been self-promoting and schmoozing with celebrities (Oprah, the Clooneys and the Carters most notably) and uses a lot of informal language. There's a clear distinction of class here. One understands how royalty works and respects it, the other doesn't get it and frequently flies in the face of it.

Kate's wedding got all the coverage because she was married to the 2nd in line. The further up the succession line you are, the more press attention, it's just the way it works. What a lot of non-Brits don't realise is that Kate got a lot of negativity when she was dating William. There are still people around today claiming that she stalked him at university, that she flaunted herself during their break up, etc. The press insinutated that the Middleton family had encouraged her to snag prince to get their family higher social status and get promotion for the family business. Her sister was also followed by the press and her party planning book was lambasted by the press and public with 1 star reviews when it got released and she was widely criticised as a freeloader. But over time, the public grew to respect them. They kept their heads down, followed protocol, didn't publicise themselves, served the public. And after 8 years of marriage and 3 children, they've more than earned respect from the people. Harry's insistence that we should all love Meghan immediately when she's not done anything to earn it is not to way to go to earn public sympathy. Instead of telling the people who fund your lifestyle that they're doing wrong, maybe you should first work out what you're doing that's bugging them.

It's not just tourism that'll be affected. Our flag may well change, our money will have to be re-printed and minted, our anthem will change, even the name of our country will need to change as we're no longer a kingdom and anything that bears the title of UK in it from companies to internet domain name will have to change. The major representatives of our country would be gone. Our identity as a country would be massively affected. Most countries got rid of their monarchies long before the modern age but we'd have to do so in a time when reversing and changing things is much more complicated. It is difficult for someone from such a new country such as the USA to fathom what it will mean for a country to get rid of a piece of culture that has been around since medieval times but this is just scratching the surface of it.

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40 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Comparing their classiness has always taken some explaining to outsiders. The Melania vs. Michelle thing is definitely more cut and dried because both were undoubtedly as respectable and well-dressed as the other and both were speaking correctly with good manners, so what has Melania got that Michelle hasn't? But Meghan vs. Kate...the differences are huge. Kate always dresses conservatively, appropriately, supports British designers, doesn't over-spend and re-uses clothes. Meghan has frequently worn skirts that are too short, shown too much skin, wears French/Italian/American labels but not much British, spends thousands on new clothes every year that she never wears twice, not even her maternity wardrobe. Kate has always had perfectly brushed and styled hair that's never out of place whereas Meghan has frequently had unkempt loose hair blowing in the wind or scrapes it into a messy bun with strands dangling in her eyes (yet, we've seen her in sleek buns before so we know it can be done). This isn't a dig at her natural hair, it's extensions right now anyway and she's relaxed it to the point where it's perfectly manageable, she just doesn't bother with making it look neat. Kate always follows protocol, never airs her political views or preaches, doesn't do moves for personal gain and uses formal language. Meghan has been flouting protocol from day one, frequently airs her political views and preaches, has been self-promoting and schmoozing with celebrities (Oprah, the Clooneys and the Carters most notably) and uses a lot of informal language. There's a clear distinction of class here. One understands how royalty works and respects it, the other doesn't get it and frequently flies in the face of it.

Kate's wedding got all the coverage because she was married to the 2nd in line. The further up the succession line you are, the more press attention, it's just the way it works. What a lot of non-Brits don't realise is that Kate got a lot of negativity when she was dating William. There are still people around today claiming that she stalked him at university, that she flaunted herself during their break up, etc. The press insinutated that the Middleton family had encouraged her to snag prince to get their family higher social status and get promotion for the family business. Her sister was also followed by the press and her party planning book was lambasted by the press and public with 1 star reviews when it got released and she was widely criticised as a freeloader. But over time, the public grew to respect them. They kept their heads down, followed protocol, didn't publicise themselves, served the public. And after 8 years of marriage and 3 children, they've more than earned respect from the people. Harry's insistence that we should all love Meghan immediately when she's not done anything to earn it is not to way to go to earn public sympathy. Instead of telling the people who fund your lifestyle that they're doing wrong, maybe you should first work out what you're doing that's bugging them.

It's not just tourism that'll be affected. Our flag may well change, our money will have to be re-printed and minted, our anthem will change, even the name of our country will need to change as we're no longer a kingdom and anything that bears the title of UK in it from companies to internet domain name will have to change. The major representatives of our country would be gone. Our identity as a country would be massively affected. Most countries got rid of their monarchies long before the modern age but we'd have to do so in a time when reversing and changing things is much more complicated. It is difficult for someone from such a new country such as the USA to fathom what it will mean for a country to get rid of a piece of culture that has been around since medieval times but this is just scratching the surface of it.

I don’t find any of things to not be classy tbh. And she’s American too. She won’t act the way Kate does. She has Hollywood connections so she’ll obviously be more vocal and cozy with celebrities. 

I mean the UK is TRYING to leave the EU which is a BIG change as well. I think abolishing the monarchy is a real possibility if the majority of the public is on board some day. Or at least not funding ALL of these people in line for the throne. 

[GoldenPonyboy 2,403]

Harry can get it ugh Why is he so cute

[JustinTrudeau 2,419]

6 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Comparing their classiness has always taken some explaining to outsiders. The Melania vs. Michelle thing is definitely more cut and dried because both were undoubtedly as respectable and well-dressed as the other and both were speaking correctly with good manners, so what has Melania got that Michelle hasn't? But Meghan vs. Kate...the differences are huge. Kate always dresses conservatively, appropriately, supports British designers, doesn't over-spend and re-uses clothes. Meghan has frequently worn skirts that are too short, shown too much skin, wears French/Italian/American labels but not much British, spends thousands on new clothes every year that she never wears twice, not even her maternity wardrobe. Kate has always had perfectly brushed and styled hair that's never out of place whereas Meghan has frequently had unkempt loose hair blowing in the wind or scrapes it into a messy bun with strands dangling in her eyes (yet, we've seen her in sleek buns before so we know it can be done). This isn't a dig at her natural hair, it's extensions right now anyway and she's relaxed it to the point where it's perfectly manageable, she just doesn't bother with making it look neat. Kate always follows protocol, never airs her political views or preaches, doesn't do moves for personal gain and uses formal language. Meghan has been flouting protocol from day one, frequently airs her political views and preaches, has been self-promoting and schmoozing with celebrities (Oprah, the Clooneys and the Carters most notably) and uses a lot of informal language. There's a clear distinction of class here. One understands how royalty works and respects it, the other doesn't get it and frequently flies in the face of it.

Kate's wedding got all the coverage because she was married to the 2nd in line. The further up the succession line you are, the more press attention, it's just the way it works. What a lot of non-Brits don't realise is that Kate got a lot of negativity when she was dating William. There are still people around today claiming that she stalked him at university, that she flaunted herself during their break up, etc. The press insinutated that the Middleton family had encouraged her to snag prince to get their family higher social status and get promotion for the family business. Her sister was also followed by the press and her party planning book was lambasted by the press and public with 1 star reviews when it got released and she was widely criticised as a freeloader. But over time, the public grew to respect them. They kept their heads down, followed protocol, didn't publicise themselves, served the public. And after 8 years of marriage and 3 children, they've more than earned respect from the people. Harry's insistence that we should all love Meghan immediately when she's not done anything to earn it is not to way to go to earn public sympathy. Instead of telling the people who fund your lifestyle that they're doing wrong, maybe you should first work out what you're doing that's bugging them.

Honestly... I think the Brits need to chill about Meghan big time. You can't expect everyone to act like Kate. She's a different person, with a different personality. I never found her outfits inappropriate, and I don't care for whose labels she wear. Seriously, you're acting like she murdered babies for a living. 

At the end of the day, she's just a figurehead. She's not _ruling_ the country, none of the royals are. So why not have a little fun, and live a life like a princess?

I hear that you Brits want a change to remove the royals, but you're still stuck up about the "rules" for the royals, probably more stuck up than the Queen herself.  Who are we trying to fool here if we're trying so hard to pretend our royals are nothing but decedents of God? 

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Well Harry loves her and so does the Royal family so I don’t think it matters if a bunch of nobodies dislike her lol

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I hope this gets the wheels turning to ban tabloids. They do need to be held accountable.

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16 hours ago, Morphine Prince said:

I don’t find any of things to not be classy tbh. And she’s American too. She won’t act the way Kate does. She has Hollywood connections so she’ll obviously be more vocal and cozy with celebrities. 

I mean the UK is TRYING to leave the EU which is a BIG change as well. I think abolishing the monarchy is a real possibility if the majority of the public is on board some day. Or at least not funding ALL of these people in line for the throne. 

It wouldn't be an issue for a non-royal but royals have a very strict protocol when it comes to appearance and behaviour. If we're going to be paying for your clothes, you've got to look appropriate and immaculate. If you can go against protocol, then what's the point in being royals at all? The fact they're different to us and held to a higher standard is the whole point of them. If they're no different to us, why are we paying for them? I'm not saying she has to be a carbon copy of Kate but just follow her lead in how she handles things. Meghan invited celebrities to her wedding she'd never even met yet snubbed her own family. That tells you a lot about a person and what their aims are. Did you know that Harry skipped a Royal Marines memorial event in order to go to The Lion King premiere with Meghan? He was even caught on camera shaking hands with the Disney executives and saying that Meghan would be up for any speaking roles in future movies. Make no mistake, this woman is still Hollywood through and through. She doesn't seem to get that you give up that dream when you become royal. And demanding 40 seats be cleared beside her when she attended Wimbledon and got security to reprimand anyone who took a photo near her really shows how much of a diva she's become. All the royals have always sat among the public at Wimbledon, no one has ever demanded such extreme measures.

Exactly, Brexit is more than enough to be going on with. I don't think I can take many more changes or potential changes. The royals have at least stayed the same through all this time. But I think funding needs to be drastically cut, the royal house needs to cut out the minor ones nobody cares about, children further down the line of succession must be self-funded, etc.

10 hours ago, JustinTrudeau said:

Honestly... I think the Brits need to chill about Meghan big time. You can't expect everyone to act like Kate. She's a different person, with a different personality. I never found her outfits inappropriate, and I don't care for whose labels she wear. Seriously, you're acting like she murdered babies for a living. 

At the end of the day, she's just a figurehead. She's not _ruling_ the country, none of the royals are. So why not have a little fun, and live a life like a princess?

I hear that you Brits want a change to remove the royals, but you're still stuck up about the "rules" for the royals, probably more stuck up than the Queen herself.  Who are we trying to fool here if we're trying so hard to pretend our royals are nothing but decedents of God? 

You're being way too calm about this, obviously because you don't live here or pay for them. You'd care if one of the biggest representatives of your country was walking about looking scruffy. You'd care if a foreigner took on the citizenship of your country, became a representative of your country and then wouldn't even wear native designers labels. It doesn't matter what you find appropriate or doesn't bother you. The fact is that royals have protocol as royals that must be followed. There's a huge difference between celebrities and royals.

"Just" a figurehead? Figurehead is a major role. Royals don't represent themselves, they represent their country. When she takes part in royal tours, she represents our image abroad. I even heard someone the other day say she was "the most famous woman in the world." I think that's slightly overstated but she's currently one of the most famous, for sure. And the Queen does rule, she has to sign declarations and all that. Just because she doesn't have the power of prime minister doesn't mean she doesn't rule anything. Being a princess is not about "having fun." Have you gained your knowledge of princessdom through Disney movies? Because the reality is nothing like that - it's attending ceremonies, cutting ribbons at grand openings, charity work, that kinda thing. And Meghan is not a princess. Non-Brits routinely make that mistake. She is a duchess. She will never be allowed to rule.

Well, yes, as long as we have royals, damn right they should follow the rules. If we're paying for them, they should do as expected. I don't see why that's so unreasonable. The Queen enforces that protocol. I just think she's got too much on her plate now to deal with that. And I never said they had to be descendants of God, just follow protocol.

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25 Ways Princess Diana Broke Protocol as a Royal 

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/g3675/princess-diana-royal-protocol/

 

She made her own fashion choices.

Sometimes that meant going for something bold, like showing off her shoulders (a major no-no) or wearing form-fitting dresses to events.

 

Kate doesn't always follow the fashion rules either.

Kate repeatedly wears gowns and dresses that show off her shoulders. She's clearly is a fan of her mother-in-law's style.

 

She wore "low cut" dresses.

But don't worry, she wasn't reckless. Princess Diana's handbag designer Anya Hindmarch called her purses "cleavage bags," because the Princess used them to cover up her chest while getting out of the car.

 

She even spoke candidly about her marriage.

In the BBC interview, she addressed Prince Charles's longtime relationship with Camilla Parker-Bowles: "A woman's instinct is a very good one; obviously I had knowledge of it from people who minded and cared about our marriage ... There were three of us in this marriage, so it was a bit crowded."

The princess also didn't deny her own affair when Bashir asked her if she was unfaithful with James Hewitt: "Yes, I adored him. Yes, I was in love with him. But I was very let down." Within a month of the interview, Diana's press secretary had resigned and the Queen sent the couple a letter urging them to divorce.

 

Also the affairs were very classy... where was ever this energy about Charles, first? 

 

 

[Morphine Prince 106,734]

25 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

It wouldn't be an issue for a non-royal but royals have a very strict protocol when it comes to appearance and behaviour. If we're going to be paying for your clothes, you've got to look appropriate and immaculate. If you can go against protocol, then what's the point in being royals at all? The fact they're different to us and held to a higher standard is the whole point of them. If they're no different to us, why are we paying for them? I'm not saying she has to be a carbon copy of Kate but just follow her lead in how she handles things. Meghan invited celebrities to her wedding she'd never even met yet snubbed her own family. That tells you a lot about a person and what their aims are. Did you know that Harry skipped a Royal Marines memorial event in order to go to The Lion King premiere with Meghan? He was even caught on camera shaking hands with the Disney executives and saying that Meghan would be up for any speaking roles in future movies. Make no mistake, this woman is still Hollywood through and through. She doesn't seem to get that you give up that dream when you become royal. And demanding 40 seats be cleared beside her when she attended Wimbledon and got security to reprimand anyone who took a photo near her really shows how much of a diva she's become. All the royals have always sat among the public at Wimbledon, no one has ever demanded such extreme measures.

Exactly, Brexit is more than enough to be going on with. I don't think I can take many more changes or potential changes. The royals have at least stayed the same through all this time. But I think funding needs to be drastically cut, the royal house needs to cut out the minor ones nobody cares about, children further down the line of succession must be self-funded, etc.

You're being way too calm about this, obviously because you don't live here or pay for them. You'd care if one of the biggest representatives of your country was walking about looking scruffy. You'd care if a foreigner took on the citizenship of your country, became a representative of your country and then wouldn't even wear native designers labels. It doesn't matter what you find appropriate or doesn't bother you. The fact is that royals have protocol as royals that must be followed. There's a huge difference between celebrities and royals.

"Just" a figurehead? Figurehead is a major role. Royals don't represent themselves, they represent their country. When she takes part in royal tours, she represents our image abroad. I even heard someone the other day say she was "the most famous woman in the world." I think that's slightly overstated but she's currently one of the most famous, for sure. And the Queen does rule, she has to sign declarations and all that. Just because she doesn't have the power of prime minister doesn't mean she doesn't rule anything. Being a princess is not about "having fun." Have you gained your knowledge of princessdom through Disney movies? Because the reality is nothing like that - it's attending ceremonies, cutting ribbons at grand openings, charity work, that kinda thing. And Meghan is not a princess. Non-Brits routinely make that mistake. She is a duchess. She will never be allowed to rule.

Well, yes, as long as we have royals, damn right they should follow the rules. If we're paying for them, they should do as expected. I don't see why that's so unreasonable. The Queen enforces that protocol. I just think she's got too much on her plate now to deal with that. And I never said they had to be descendants of God, just follow protocol.

I don’t think your taxes should be going to these people either way. And quite frankly her appearance or demeanor is less important than things like cheating scandals with your mistress. Yet Prince Charles doesn’t have pitchforks outside his home.