Swallow 12,052 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, FfFfFfFF said: What posts? Anyways maybe take off your stan glasses off and you'll see what I mean. From your perspective as Swifty it's only natural that any form of criticism appears as hate but it's not. It's just that, criticism. My point was and still is, you don't go all vocal about how you don't know how bundles work when you used a million shady tactics yourself. Criticism? Gurl you said she was also using bundles and simply said that was not true. But whatever, I'm bored of this discussion, have a nice day Es solo una paja entre colegas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 55,709 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Swallow said: Criticism? Gurl you said she was also using bundles and simply said that was not true. But whatever, I'm bored of this discussion, have a nice day I didn't said she was using "bundles" but other ways of promotion which I mostly reffered to as "tactics" though. Have a nice day too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus 4,485 Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, Swallow said: First of all, sis have you seen your posts when it comes to Taylor? You're an obvious hater so sadly I don't think you are being objective here. Also you are acting as if she did that herself There's like a dozen people in charge of that and she is probably aware of some small details. If you honestly think Taylor went to her label and said "GUYS!! We should replace the Me! CDs now with the Lover CD and make sure it counts twice HAHAHH!!!" Again, THIS cannot be compared to the Lover situation AT ALL. Ms. Taylor "I'm in total control of my career" Swift didn't have a heavy hand in how her album is sold or promoted? The Queen Lady Dame Duchess and Baroness of businesswomen is able to decide whether her music is allowed on streaming services etc, but has no say in regards to how her album is sold or promoted? -𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐅𝐀𝐌𝐄 𝐄𝐍𝐈𝐆𝐌𝐀™ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,822 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I find it odd how she suddenly correlates all this bundle talk to her music video views. They seem completely unrelated. And how does she find the ME video views such a big deal? So far, its been her worst performing video for a lead single since her debut. It's not getting the monster views that LWYMMD did and its going to be a long time before it gets even remotely close to the views of SIO and Blank Space. For a Taylor lead single, those views (and the views of follow-up videos, for that matter) are inexplicably low. So was this mention of the views supposed to be some kinda way to trick us into thinking they're doing better than they actually are? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 73,773 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, FfFfFfFF said: On the other hand she understands 4 deluxe version, CD singles that get replaced to the album so they count twice and the importance of a long tracklisting full of short songs. they got the album booklet with their single CD also with the short songs, Lover has 18 tracks and is 1hr 2min long, Joanne (deluxe) is 14 tracks and 47 minutes long but no beef sksksks just saying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus 4,485 Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 Mind you, this is the same naive business woman that came up with the idea of promoting her album by giving it away for free with $22 pizza purchase. -𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐅𝐀𝐌𝐄 𝐄𝐍𝐈𝐆𝐌𝐀™ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight 2,429 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 When she's 40, she'll get it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaume 1,282 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 She is an incredible talented businesswoman but as some others have said, that is punished by society. When she wrote songs about love failure, about her bad reputation, about her breakups people loved her... now that she is in love, in a long relationship and writes happy songs it seems like her 'loser' fans ( in no way I want to bring down anyone) cant relate that much. In other words... she has to play like she is the girl next door, America aint here for a bad bitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 55,709 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, neptugne said: they got the album booklet with their single CD also with the short songs, Lover has 18 tracks and is 1hr 2min long, Joanne (deluxe) is 14 tracks and 47 minutes long but no beef sksksks just saying I's still a form of taking advantage of her fans. Even without new songs it's a new valuable and collectable piece. Every collector would have to buy 5 copies of the same album while usually artists release only 2 collectable pieces (standard and deluxe). Plus, Lover is more commercial than Joanne. Not only in terms of style/ genres, but Lover has 16 songs and plenty of them shorter than 3 minutes. Joanne had 14 with only one shorter than 3 minutes. No beef either, just my two cents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 73,773 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, FfFfFfFF said: I's still a form of taking advantage of her fans. Even without new songs it's a new valuable and collectable piece. Every collector would have to buy 5 copies of the same album while usually artists release only 2 collectable piece (standard and deluxe). Plus, Lover is more commercial than Joanne. Not only in terms of style/ genres, but Lover has 16 songs and plenty of them shorter than 2 minutes. Joanne had 14 with only one shorter than 2 minutes. No beef either, just my two cents. Neither albums have any tracks under 2 minutes, but Lover has 5 tracks below 3 minutes and Joanne has 3. The average length of songs is 3.44 for Lover, 3.35 for Joanne so it's very close but Lover still has longer tracks I agree with the 4 versions, definitely a way to boost sales from her dedicated fans, but I also wouldn't place it on the same level as bundles because you're still only buying the album not product + album. now we're at 6 cents Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwing 518 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I hate the concept of bundles. I wanted a particular blink-182 shirt, but I had to buy an album bundle to get it. The shirt wasn't sold separately and I had already purchased the album. So, they got two album sales out of me. I don't mind it, they deserve it (it's a fantastic album), but I understand why it's done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 55,709 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, neptugne said: Neither albums have any tracks under 2 minutes, but Lover has 5 tracks below 3 minutes and Joanne has 3. The average length of songs is 3.44 for Lover, 3.35 for Joanne so it's very close but Lover still has longer tracks I agree with the 4 versions, definitely a way to boost sales from her dedicated fans, but I also wouldn't place it on the same level as bundles because you're still only buying the album not product + album. now we're at 6 cents Joanne standard (the most listened and important version) has 1 song under 3 minutes, John Wayne and the other 2 are Just Another Day and Angel Down Work tape while Taylor has 5 songs under 3 minutes and overall 16 songs. Leaving genre/ style aside one seems to be designed to for into streaming more than the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus 4,485 Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 Very cunning liar businesswoman. -𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐅𝐀𝐌𝐄 𝐄𝐍𝐈𝐆𝐌𝐀™ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakariah 11,718 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 literally who cares, ya'll just mad she's winning even if she's 'lying'. in the fame game, everyone lies, get over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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