The Sun snaps at BeyJay for ‘spoiling’ Blue Ivy

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It's not ur kid, so worry about ur own kids and shut the **** up

[Nightwing 518]

I doubt they've actually talked to Blue Ivy about trademarking her name. I mean... I just see that as them trying to secure her future should she want to go into the music industry or have a business of her own. She'd, at least, be able to use her name. Or, perhaps, there could be a ruling that allows them both to use it without it being trademarked specifically?

But, why wouldn't they want to give their child the very best in life? I'm still sure that, at least, Beyoncé teaches humility as it relates to being grateful for what you have in life and to not take anything for granted. I don't expect much out of Jay-Z, honestly.

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12 minutes ago, Nightwing said:

I doubt they've actually talked to Blue Ivy about trademarking her name. I mean... I just see that as them trying to secure her future should she want to go into the music industry or have a business of her own. She'd, at least, be able to use her name. Or, perhaps, there could be a ruling that allows them both to use it without it being trademarked specifically?

But, why wouldn't they want to give their child the very best in life? I'm still sure that, at least, Beyoncé teaches humility as it relates to being grateful for what you have in life and to not take anything for granted. I don't expect much out of Jay-Z, honestly.

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10 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

And the college admissions scandal has been widely spoken about and I don't see anyone cutting Felicity Huffman any slack. Whenever a celebrity gets barely any jail time or gets off completely, there's always a public outcry, race is irrelevant. 

Everyone except for the courts and justice system. Race is definitely relevant.

[Maleficent 6]

idc how spoiled she is (i was an incredibly spoiled child), i just pray her parents keep a watchful eye on her. when she’s in her teens a lot of people will want to take advantage of her in a lot of different ways and sometimes a 14/15/16 yr old isn’t savvy enough to navigate those waters...

[KingRedd 3,139]

Oh lord you people on this site keep trying this “woke” thing. They’re not right... why? Because it’s their kid and Bey and Jay can do what they want. It would be different if Blue looked miserable when she goes but she always looks happy and steals the show from them sometimes. This is a family being a family even in the public eye. What kills me is y’all always want to give celebrities advice about bs but if your sister pushes her child to be a dancer you’ll smile and say “she pushing her to be great.” If anyone brags on their child they are proud parents. When Bey does she’s suddenly” pushing for her child to be great and using her for attention.” It’s disgusting. Sometimes it’s comical but the hate for this woman and anything she does is legit annoying and needs to stop. I’m literally considering leaving because I’m not going to be apart of a site that bully’s this woman and others over literally nothing while our fave preaches love and acceptance against bullying.... smh I just can’t today. The Sun suddenly knows their personal life and knows how Blue feels all of a sudden. What a joke. 

[HoneyB 27,926]

Y’all act like you live with the family how are you gonna analyze the lifestyle of a family you’ve never met in person? This is exactly the reason why she never interacts or does anything out in the public eye because somehow someone will ALWAYS pull something out their a$$ to make her and her family look bad even if she hasn’t done or said anything.

Unless Blue herself grows up and publicly states that they made her childhood hell, don’t bother worrying over someone’s family life and focus on yours because that’s what’s important

[whore 11,447]

I’m on the borderline about this. On one hand, I can see the issue, especially with the amount of wealth she has access to. On the other hand, the parents are doing nothing wrong, they’re simply providing for their child to the best of their abilities, something any parent would do if they had the resources.

I think the only real problem is how they’re feeding her ego, and I’m hoping she doesn’t grow up to be a brat because her parents raised her under the guise that she’s an “icon” or “legend” without having done anything to deserve this title. 

[StrawberryBlond 14,881]

11 hours ago, JLoveLamar said:

Everyone except for the courts and justice system. Race is definitely relevant.

But they weren't talking about the courts and justice system, just the newspaper media and maybe a bit of the public too. That's why I was talking about public outcry.

10 hours ago, KingRedd said:

Oh lord you people on this site keep trying this “woke” thing. They’re not right... why? Because it’s their kid and Bey and Jay can do what they want. It would be different if Blue looked miserable when she goes but she always looks happy and steals the show from them sometimes. This is a family being a family even in the public eye. What kills me is y’all always want to give celebrities advice about bs but if your sister pushes her child to be a dancer you’ll smile and say “she pushing her to be great.” If anyone brags on their child they are proud parents. When Bey does she’s suddenly” pushing for her child to be great and using her for attention.” It’s disgusting. Sometimes it’s comical but the hate for this woman and anything she does is legit annoying and needs to stop. I’m literally considering leaving because I’m not going to be apart of a site that bully’s this woman and others over literally nothing while our fave preaches love and acceptance against bullying.... smh I just can’t today. The Sun suddenly knows their personal life and knows how Blue feels all of a sudden. What a joke. 

Being concerned about a child's upbringing and wellbeing isn't woke, it's just called being a decent human being. Saying it's their child so they can do what they like isn't very progressive and as Bey and Jay are public figures, criticism is part of the game, so they can't just expect their lives to be free of judgement. And just because she looks happy in public doesn't mean that she's happy on the inside. Even children learn how to plaster a smile on when they're feeling low. We're more aware of the idea now that just because someone projects happiness in public doesn't mean they're genuinely happy. That's why we all need to check in with each other, make sure they're not just trying to be brave. She might well seem happy as this is all she's ever known, it doesn't mean she's going to keep on enjoying it as she gets older. And you can be a family in the public eye without dragging your child to awards shows and runway shows which a child will hardly find rivetting and isn't the correct environment for them. And how do you know we're not critical of family when they do the same thing? I hold the same standards for celebrities as I do for everyone. And I don't know of anyone who likes a bragging parent. Most people hate hearing anyone talk at length about a child who isn't theirs. And we all roll our eyes when they call their child a genius when their intelligence is no better than the average child's and outlining future college plans before the child's even in high school definitely gets the side eye. Everyone knows parents who brag tend to regret those words later when the child doesn't turn out the way they hoped. Mentioning this isn't bullying, it's just good life advice. Saying that maybe you shouldn't make a child famous is hardly bullying when there have been so many messed-up child stars. It's hard to find one that didn't go off the rails.

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3 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

But they weren't talking about the courts and justice system, just the newspaper media and maybe a bit of the public too. That's why I was talking about public outcry.

Being concerned about a child's upbringing and wellbeing isn't woke, it's just called being a decent human being. Saying it's their child so they can do what they like isn't very progressive and as Bey and Jay are public figures, criticism is part of the game, so they can't just expect their lives to be free of judgement. And just because she looks happy in public doesn't mean that she's happy on the inside. Even children learn how to plaster a smile on when they're feeling low. We're more aware of the idea now that just because someone projects happiness in public doesn't mean they're genuinely happy. That's why we all need to check in with each other, make sure they're not just trying to be brave. She might well seem happy as this is all she's ever known, it doesn't mean she's going to keep on enjoying it as she gets older. And you can be a family in the public eye without dragging your child to awards shows and runway shows which a child will hardly find rivetting and isn't the correct environment for them. And how do you know we're not critical of family when they do the same thing? I hold the same standards for celebrities as I do for everyone. And I don't know of anyone who likes a bragging parent. Most people hate hearing anyone talk at length about a child who isn't theirs. And we all roll our eyes when they call their child a genius when their intelligence is no better than the average child's and outlining future college plans before the child's even in high school definitely gets the side eye. Everyone knows parents who brag tend to regret those words later when the child doesn't turn out the way they hoped. Mentioning this isn't bullying, it's just good life advice. Saying that maybe you shouldn't make a child famous is hardly bullying when there have been so many messed-up child stars. It's hard to find one that didn't go off the rails.

It’s not being a decent human being when you critic a celebrity as if what they are doing isn’t normal. Stop reaching for this “be woke” thing that I mentioned. What did she do with her child that every mother hasn’t? Dressed her nice? Brought her to work with her? Your mentality is poor if you feel the need to constantly advise celebrities on what they should and shouldn’t do. These are grown adults with their own children, yes their own children. They raise their kids the way the feel best. Blue is a child. Why are people acting like a child should be treated as an adult? She can have fun and play but still have to adhere to the rules her parents set. She has expectations which is a good thing. You’re reaching. Until something actually controversial happens stop acting as if it did. Morning btw 

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2 minutes ago, KingRedd said:

It’s not being a decent human being when you critic a celebrity as if what they are doing isn’t normal. Stop reaching for this “be woke” thing that I mentioned. What did she do with her child that every mother hasn’t? Dressed her nice? Brought her to work with her? Your mentality is poor if you feel the need to constantly advise celebrities on what they should and shouldn’t do. These are grown adults with their own children, yes their own children. They raise their kids the way the feel best. Blue is a child. Why are people acting like a child should be treated as an adult? She can have fun and play but still have to adhere to the rules her parents set. She has expectations which is a good thing. You’re reaching. Until something actually controversial happens stop acting as if it did. Morning btw 

But it isn't normal to teach a child that they're a cultural icon and give them delusions of grandeur. What did she do with her child that no other mother does? Well, dress her in designer clothes and expensive jewels, for one. Most of us can't afford these things for ourselves, never mind our children. Children grow so fast that there's no point buying them such expensive clothing that they'll grow out of in a year, maybe less. And most parents don't bring their child to their 9-5, do they? Considering children should be at home playing or in school learning, it wouldn't really work anyway. More to the point, why would a child want to be at a parent's workplace? Until Blue has actually put something out into the world of entertainment (a quick line in a song doesn't count), there's no need for her to be needlessly brought out to red carpets and award ceremonies. She can do that when and if she actually starts working in the entertainment business. At the moment, she seems to be there as some sort of prop, to convince the world they're a happy family or something, proof that her parents are present in her life and suchlike. But it all feels so contrived. A vast number of people at the Grammys have kids, did they all bring their kids to the ceremony? No, because this is an environment for adults and nobody wants kids hanging around or causing mischief. It's an awards ceremony, not a creche. Considering how long the Grammys go on, kids should be in their bed as well. And where did I say Blue should be treated as an adult? The whole point is we feel she's not being treated like a child! She's being raised as a mini adult right now. Expectations are all well and good when they're age appropriate. Wanting your child to take the world by storm as an entertainer when they've barely mastered tying their shoelaces is not only unrealistic but potentially damaging.

And the point of saying all this is that you don't wait until something controversial happens to start giving advice. Then the damage is done and it's harder to reverse it. You give advice before it happens. Prevention's better than cure. And nowhere is that more true than when it comes to children being spoiled and precocious. I've said for many years that what I call "emotional spoiling" (constantly telling your kid they're wonderful, giving them feelings of being special and superior to others, giving them un-earned praise, believing they'd never do anything bad, disbelieving anyone who says a word against them) is far worse than material spoiling. Spoiled children, if not kept grounded, grow into spoiled adults. And as someone who's witnessed spoiled adults, it's not pretty.

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5 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

But it isn't normal to teach a child that they're a cultural icon and give them delusions of grandeur.

She is the daughter of Beyonce. She will not have a normal childhood. Where were you when everyone online was calling her nappy-headed and ugly? Now, the odds are turning around in her favor and spoiling her is a bad thing? Now all of a sudden her attitude is a problem, but FULL-ON grown adults' issues with her was not a problem? Come on!

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18 hours ago, JLoveLamar said:

She is the daughter of Beyonce. She will not have a normal childhood. Where were you when everyone online was calling her nappy-headed and ugly? Now, the odds are turning around in her favor and spoiling her is a bad thing? Now all of a sudden her attitude is a problem, but FULL-ON grown adults' issues with her was not a problem? Come on!

But my critique is nothing to do with what the public were saying about her. Where did I say it wasn't a problem? Of course that's out of line but it doesn't mean that the exact opposite behaviour is better. Extremes are rarely healthy. Don't be unnecessarily hateful, don't be unnecessarily nice either. I've already outlined how spoiling a child can be very damaging. Spoiling someone, especially emotionally, is never a good thing. You're just bringing up something unrelated in an attempt to win the argument but the argument was never about the public's reaction to her looks, it was about if she's spoiled or not.

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The fact that anyone believes that filing her name robs her of childhood, without realizing that she was "robbed" the second she was born to superstar parents is laughable.

This changes nothing, just another thing for everyone to criticize when they're actually trying to protect and support their daughter and her dreams. 

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46 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

But my critique is nothing to do with what the public were saying about her. Where did I say it wasn't a problem? Of course that's out of line but it doesn't mean that the exact opposite behaviour is better. Extremes are rarely healthy. Don't be unnecessarily hateful, don't be unnecessarily nice either. I've already outlined how spoiling a child can be very damaging. Spoiling someone, especially emotionally, is never a good thing. You're just bringing up something unrelated in an attempt to win the argument but the argument was never about the public's reaction to her looks, it was about if she's spoiled or not.

The question was, WHERE was your critique when the 1 year old child was being bullied? You were nowhere to be found. Now, a tabloid reports that the child is being spoiled, and you come running?

How someone parents their child is really none of your business. There is nothing wrong with spoiling your child. There are spoiled children in this thread. The important thing, imo, is to make sure they are not a spoiled, entitled brat. Even if she were, you are not going to be fazed by it. Y'all aren't related, y'all don't hang around in the same social circles, she knows nobody you know, so the prospect of her bullying someone u know is slim to none, and you will not ever be around her, so it is not now, nor will it ever be your problem.