2School4Cool 6,449 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 39 minutes ago, Alexander Levi said: Tbh it's just kinda cringe. It's like that friend who watches two episodes of drag race and starts saying hunty, slay and YAAS while calling you her gay bff. I'm not mad at her for speaking out about it but people acting as though she's doing something groundbreaking when she's just hoping onto the trend when it's "safe" is just kinda... Boring I love Lover though. 🤷🏻♂️ 11 minutes ago, AHippieIsBorn said: I guess my point is that Gaga's use of LGBTQ imagery comes across more authentic as she stood for us, from the beginning mind you, when it wasn't "cool". Same with Madonna. Taylor had been in the industry over TEN YEARS before she voiced support for our community. I just find it kind of trend-hopping and desperate now when everyone else wants to come to our party, you want your name on the list. I don’t know, I guess I personally just feel like it’s better late than never. Regardless of when or how she spoke up, she spoke up and is spreading the message. She’s not just putting a gay person in a music video for views, shes not using the community as a prop, she’s including a petition and taking action to make a change. An ally is an ally, and whether they’ve been vocal from day one or not, that doesn’t matter. It matters that she’s vocal now, and in my opinion, anyone standing up and supporting the cause is a good thing. See The Best In Everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, 2School4Cool said: I don’t know, I guess I personally just feel like it’s better late than never. Regardless of when or how she spoke up, she spoke up and is spreading the message. She’s not just putting a gay person in a music video for views, shes not using the community as a prop, she’s including a petition and taking action to make a change. An ally is an ally, and whether they’ve been vocal from day one or not, that doesn’t matter. It matters that she’s vocal now, and in my opinion, anyone standing up and supporting the cause is a good thing. I agree to some extent.. but it seems all very convenient. I never had a doubt in my mind that she supported us - I knew she was a liberal even when she didn’t say a word - but it seems a little inauthentic and baiting to speak for us when there’s been years and years of opportunity to do so. I like the song and video but past that it’s nothing special or culturally impactful like a song like BTW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2School4Cool 6,449 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, Alexander Levi said: I agree to some extent.. but it seems all very convenient. I never had a doubt in my mind that she supported us - I knew she was a liberal even when she didn’t say a word - but it seems a little inauthentic and baiting to speak for us when there’s been years and years of opportunity to do so. I like the song and video but past that it’s nothing special or culturally impactful like a song like BTW. I can see where you’re coming from. Maybe the current climate and the Equality Act has made her feel like now was the right time to speak out? Who knows what her motives were, but I personally still like seeing her speak out, but that’s just me. Either way, the song and video are still super fun and I’m glad to see it win the award! See The Best In Everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToxicHot 6,444 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I find it odd how Old Town Road won for Song of the Year. It makes sense that Taylor stans/supporters would be more behind it for SOTY just like how it won for VOTY. Like, it's almost painfully obvious these awards are rigged? dOnT sAd ReAcT mE 2 bE sHaDy i WiLL RePoRt U!!1! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epione 10,896 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Gays winning again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alextruper17 8,908 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 10 hours ago, pachinko said: Yntcd? Is for “You need to calm down” Miss Americana & The Heartbreak Prince Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizem 56 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 19 hours ago, Alexander Levi said: Tbh it's just kinda cringe. It's like that friend who watches two episodes of drag race and starts saying hunty, slay and YAAS while calling you her gay bff. I'm not mad at her for speaking out about it but people acting as though she's doing something groundbreaking when she's just hoping onto the trend when it's "safe" is just kinda... Boring I love Lover though. 🤷🏻♂️ 18 hours ago, AHippieIsBorn said: I guess my point is that Gaga's use of LGBTQ imagery comes across more authentic as she stood for us, from the beginning mind you, when it wasn't "cool". Same with Madonna. Taylor had been in the industry over TEN YEARS before she voiced support for our community. I just find it kind of trend-hopping and desperate now when everyone else wants to come to our party, you want your name on the list. I get yours points but she supported LGBT people in the past too. She sent letter to her fans married, she played king of my heart for gay couple, mean music video, reputation tour speach for gender equality, her donations etc. And ı could agree she was using this if it was profitable but she lost more than what she earned. She has huge conservative base because of her country days. She sold out stadium shows at dark red stated like Kansas, Lousiana, Kentucky, Tennessee etc. And she probably won't play shows at most of them now. How many artist support LGBT filled stadiums in USA? Even Madonna and Gaga didn't. If she earned 1 more fan, she lost 10. And she did more than the song. Her petition surpassed half million sign, 5 senator supported it and white house answered after her VMA speech about gender equality petition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Gizem said: How many artist support LGBT filled stadiums in USA? Even Madonna and Gaga didn't. I have no idea what this statement means Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizem 56 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, Alexander Levi said: I have no idea what this statement means It means supporting LGBT for profit like you claimed never worked in USA and examples are there. She didn't do it for profit. It was pretty clear after your and my comments whole point was that subject. I don't get what you didn't understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggest Fan 988 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 How 🤖 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish 6,145 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 I love the album but hate the two singles lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mana Mahad 1,749 Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 31 minutes ago, Fish said: I love the album but hate the two singles lol Me! is bad but YNTCD is a bop! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 9 hours ago, Gizem said: It means supporting LGBT for profit like you claimed never worked in USA and examples are there. She didn't do it for profit. It was pretty clear after your and my comments whole point was that subject. I don't get what you didn't understand. You said "How many artists support LGBT filled stadiums in the US?" I really don't get what that means? Like everyone in the stadium is LGBT? Her main fans are LGBT? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizem 56 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 56 minutes ago, Alexander Levi said: You said "How many artists support LGBT filled stadiums in the US?" I really don't get what that means? Like everyone in the stadium is LGBT? Her main fans are LGBT? Like ı said, ıf LGBT was profittable like you said, artists support it should fill stadiums. Can they? No. Yes Gaga's and Madonna's were. Taylor's aren't or weren't. She filled stadiums with the support of conservatives too. And she lost it now. It is not profitable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudraCNG 15,173 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 13 hours ago, Gizem said: How many artist support LGBT filled stadiums in USA? Even Madonna and Gaga didn't. ??? Of course Madonna did. And she has been vocal about gay rights since the 80s, risking her career bc of that. Same with Gaga, and she filled stadiums too, although she has never had a Stadium Tour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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