AmericanxDream 2,049 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Y'all make this topic every other week whenever her latest single flops or she gets accused of molesting someone else. On topic: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doncho 27,241 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 23 minutes ago, gumzy3000 said: Are gay people not allowed to have opinions? Her new music is nothing like the music she was releasing from Teenage Dream or Prism. It is really bad in comparison and its not talking trash when we say it is terrible music and call it what it is. Also has nothing to do with female power. Of course people can have opinions. We are talking about the hate for Katy, not just disliking her songs, wich is totally fine. Lot of monsters are so hypocritical, since Gaga went trough the SAME thing with ARTPOP. Yet they still have the nerve to trash Katy. These stan wars are so boring to me, but i guess some fans never learn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said: Its all in there So the proof is he’s scammed people in the past therefore the accusation is false? That’s pretty problematic to say that tbh. I can see why the media didn’t comment, they’d be dragged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueenEnthusiast 937 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said: Witness is a different genre to Prism though. Witness is more EDM influenced than bubblegum pop, even the single Chained To The Rhythm has disco influences... so you cant compare Witness to Prism or Teenage Dream I was just pointing out how flawed your point was Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 Just now, Doncho said: Of course people can have opinions. We are talking about the hate for Katy, not just disliking her songs, wich is totally fine. Lot of monsters are so hypocritical, since Gaga went trough the SAME thing with ARTPOP. Yet they still have the nerve to trash Katy. These stan wars are so boring to me, but i guess some fans never learn T H A N K Y O U End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Born To Slay said: So the proof is he’s scammed people in the past therefore the accusation is false? That’s pretty problematic to say that tbh. I can see why the media didn’t comment, they’d be dragged. The media only want one thing... and thats pop stars to be hurt or the want to put them out of a career. They will spin anything to make it negative against the pop star. We saw this with Gaga End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Just now, xoxo Craig said: The media only want one thing... and thats pop stars to be hurt or the want to put them out of a career. They will spin anything to make it negative against the pop star. We saw this with Gaga Yeah, I’m not really convinced media outlets wanna falsely blame pop stars for sexual misconduct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheQueenEnthusiast said: I speak facts only. "Katy perry doesnt make bops and is cringey" End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 Just now, Born To Slay said: Yeah, I’m not really convinced media outlets wanna falsely blame pop stars for sexual misconduct. They did it with Michael Jackson End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueenEnthusiast 937 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, holy scheisse said: It's just... Been a long time y'know. Nobody stays huge forever, chart wise. Everybody knows top 40 music appeals to young audiences mostly. And I think they just resonate with newer artists. I personally believe the cultural shift started with Lana/Lorde, and weve culturally moved away from the classic perception of popstars. I read a really interesting article about Billie eilish's career and how she's essentially a model for where the pop scene is moving in the age of streaming. It's just a new time and Katy isnt part of it .... And her making the same kind of music for all these years isn't inspiring any fresh interest. People are into the anti popstars right now I think. Ariana gets that and that's why she's shaking things up with faster releases, experimenting with new sounds/song formats, etc. Actually I read something on this too and watched a video and tbh I believe it. Britney's Blackout and Gaga's TF revitalized pop in 2008 shifting pop away from the heteronormative rhetoric and gaga continued and kind of ran/dominated with it. You literally can tell she changed the entire foundation of pop because A LOT of artist suddenly started making electro-pop songs, dressing differently, and promo'd music videos like never before. But then everything changed in 2013 when Lorde debuted and Lana became extremely popular. This video kind of helped me understand why Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Just now, xoxo Craig said: They did it with Michael Jackson That was hardly only media driven. The media has also reported the opposite side as well. No press has come to Katy’s defense. Hell, she was attacked just 3 days ago by a feminist op ed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJRocketMan 2,684 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Expressing your dislike for someone is not hating, and it shouldn’t be dismissed as such if the criticisms are well thought out and articulate. I don’t really like her because she never had much to offer in the first place. She was never a real artist and she doesn’t evolve at all. To me, music could’ve done without her and nothing would’ve been different. I mean, what was the point of her anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueenEnthusiast 937 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said: I speak facts only. "Katy perry doesnt make bops and is cringey" It's as if I'm talking to an 11 year old KPOP Stan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 minute ago, TheQueenEnthusiast said: It's as if I'm talking to an 11 year old KPOP Stan. Looks like I'm talking to a 5 year old Gaga stan... stay in nursery school End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, AJRocketMan said: Expressing your dislike for someone is not hating, and it shouldn’t be dismissed as such if the criticisms are well thought out and articulate. I don’t really like her because she never had much to offer in the first place. She was never a real artist and she doesn’t evolve at all. To me, culture could’ve done without and nothing would’ve been different. I mean, what was the point of her anyway? Katy has done a lot of things for pop culture. I Kissed A Girl was the first mainstream song to explore the themes of Bisexuality. To say she hasnt done anything for the culture is a crime. Literally when I was growing up through highschool the two main girls where Gaga and Katy. Many people grew up with these artists End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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