Gaga gains nothing by doing dance pop.

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7 hours ago, SeashellGangsta said:

Delusiona Jenkins 

 

EDM is really a not so alive genre, Gaga's albums are being made in a manner where the factors of creative expression and commercial performance are considered equally. Imo I think 'proving herself' is a really shitty way to word it. 

 

Honestly my idea of Lg6 is an album which celebrates her roots while having minimal avant garde elements and a concept (celebration of roots, reverse warholian experience, commentary on identity and self acceptance, 'monsters', and the whole meta-commentary on fame) Visually I imagine it as somewhat dark/futuristic while colorful but mature and acknowledging her roots, this is probably enigma's influence on me, a literal GAGA album, (The Fame represents the 'famousga', the TFM are her monsters, Born This Way is her acceptance, ARTPOP is a study of the process of pop music and pop culture conceptually. ))

EDM wasn't alive when Gaga broke out with Just Dance either, and she made it popular again. I'm down for another era like ARTPOP executed the way she wants it to be. She was most creative, and passionate during that era about the music for me. People are more likely to pick up Gaga's latest album and give it a fair listen now more than ever.  

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20 hours ago, witchcocktor said:

She already did her thing, she already revamped the scene, and her influence can be felt to this day. That is enough, is it not? 

Gaga was seen with Boys Noize and SOPHIE in the studio several times. I think if she sticks with them for LG6 it can be a another game changer for the pop music industry  .

Also, I completely agree with you that the songs ( or their respective styles ) you linked are perfect for her. But how do you know Gaga doesn't want to do the music how you described it. She gives a sh!t if she gains smth from it - if she wants to do it, she'll do it and speaking for me that's totally OK  .

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I just want it to be relatable. And I don't want her to feel like she has to recreate anything. We already have a poker face. We don't need another one. 

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Reading this thread has gave me a headache  

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Frankly I would LOVE one more dance pop album rather and 10 more ASIB's zzzzzz

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guess it's a good thing she's doing EDM instead of Dance-Pop then which hasn't been popular for like 5 years  

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I don't agree but i appreciate your opinion

 

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23 hours ago, Phoebe Buffay said:

well good luck to her losing her stans and making music for white supremacists and soccer moms. that makes everything she did and said from 2008-15 a total lie. abandoning your artistry just to appeal to the masses is something 2010 gaga wouldn't do.

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that Gaga doing dance bops is seen as more of an artistic risk and doing piano ballads is seen as selling out to the masses now? 

A true reverse Chartolian Experience omg

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Bruh if she releases dance-pop music it's not going to be intentionally vapid like the ASIB pop tracks

The GP would appreciate Gaga coming back to form. She doesn't have any area of her talent left to prove

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1 hour ago, EdgeOfGloryGa said:

This is untrue, she explained herself in multiple interviews in the ARTPOP era, that this is not something new… and with the app I think she was just excited with the plans they had and obviously everything fell through. I disagree with you when it comes to the pretentious. She’s always been a bit pretentious, but it’s because she’s that damn good.

However ARTPOP wasn’t Pretentiousness. It was Passion.

I'll admit I really worded that statement badly and should've elaborated on the 'poetic' aspect and her taking herself so seriously during the era. I should've worded it as a realization of the ARTPOP concept compared to people just, subconsciously referencing art culture. You could literally all label all 'pretension' as 'being excited', and I think that the 'pretentious b/c she's good' argument' is really convoluted in terms of the fact she did have a dip in quality. I agree she evidently was passionate about the project

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On 8/15/2019 at 8:03 AM, witchcocktor said:

And she completely dominated the entire world for years because she brought in something new, exciting and she marketed herself well. But did ARTPOP smash? Did the dancey tracks on Joanne go viral? Did The Cure become a hit? Did the pop songs in ASIB get several awards? 

Still love all her music but I don't see your point. She is not indebted to dance pop because that's how her career started dude. Come on now.

The Cure is not a "dance/pop" song. And as a general umbrella term, there has always been and will  always continue to be a place for electronic oriented dance music not only in pop but on pop radio lol.....it is not in this 2011-era box of what you seem to think it is. Its a big wide world full of variations that will continue to be expanded upon till the end of the time. To say she will do "dance/pop" and I keep putting it in quotations for a reason because its not a real genre itself but whatever, is not to say it will be anything remotely akin to the 2009-2013 era rave/ibiza clubs inspired edm that im certain you seem to think is all electronic dance music is lol anyway..

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13 hours ago, SeashellGangsta said:

I'll admit I really worded that statement badly and should've elaborated on the 'poetic' aspect and her taking herself so seriously during the era. I should've worded it as a realization of the ARTPOP concept compared to people just, subconsciously referencing art culture. You could literally all label all 'pretension' as 'being excited', and I think that the 'pretentious b/c she's good' argument' is really convoluted in terms of the fact she did have a dip in quality. I agree she evidently was passionate about the project

I didn't see it as her taking herself seriously so much as her constantly being on the defense in the majority of her promotion and interviews for that album. A promotional tool for the era was literally a video entitled "Lady Gaga Is Over", that says everything about her headspace at that time. And also, pretension is not a bad thing, artists are inherently "pretentious" anyway, period. I won't accept any argument saying otherwise.

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On 8/15/2019 at 7:59 AM, witchcocktor said:

She won't get streams, she won't get acclaim, she won't get awards, she won't get a hit, and I doubt her heart would be fully in it for another era of dance pop where she'll do some awkward choreography and yell '' PUT YOUR ****ING HANDS UP, SING IT, CMON! '' constantly on the stage. 

The only people who need '' bAsIc DaNcE pOp BoPs!!1111 '' are some select fans who can't let go of the early 2010s. 

Look, I'm not saying that if Gaga releases a pop album it's going to suck, on the contrary I'm sure it's going to be amazing, because Gaga is just that talented but geez, Gaga doesn't need pop music, only some of her fans do, LET'S BE REAL. The only way she is going to prosper in specifically in the dancey pop category is if she is able to COMPLETELY reinvent the entire industry as she did when she debuted, and asking that of Gaga is just too much. She already did her thing, she already revamped the scene, and her influence can be felt to this day. That is enough, is it not? 

There's a generational shift happening in popular music. A lot of us who were teenagers and grew up listening to Gaga, we are in our mid twenties now, and the new popular names in popular music are being aimed at a completely new generation of music listeners, teenagers of today. Gaga cannot compete with those new names, and Gaga definitely shouldn't do what they do, release similar music and/or try to appeal to that generation. Because in the end, she is not going to be relateable or interesting to that generation, so trying is moot.

If you want dance '' bops '' because you just happen to like that genre the most, I can understand that, I hear you. But don't ever think that she is going to blow up by doing straight up pop music. Because that is just SILLY! She is not that girl anymore.

But regardless, if Gaga wants to do dancey pops for the gay clubs, she will do just that. And I will love it because anything Gaga does, I'm here for it. But she doesn't need pop music, and pop music definitely won't revitalize her music career to where she was in her prime. I mean, she did repeak with ASIB, so what does that say about what kind of music would probably go down the best with the general public.

I'll end this probably blasphemous post with a few excellent performances, none of them being dance pop. And you tell me, straight into my face, that this isn't the kind of music Gaga should release for the rest of her damn life

 

Eres. Un. pendejo

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Can't predict what's happened next tbh. 

She could go either mature sound or bops depends on the execution I guess. 

I mean like Madonna seek more mature sound in the 90s away from the 80s and go back to dance in 00s seems fine. And the album that is doing well is actually what is executed well. 

I mean who know the yeehaw agenda happening now, after that Joanne era. 

 

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On 8/15/2019 at 8:21 AM, Phoebe Buffay said:

1. if i recall correctly, her dance-pop stuff has gotten her more streams, more awards and more acclaim than her stuff for grandmas and grandpas. bad romance and poker face alone>> entire cheek to cheek and joanne eras in terms of commercial AND critical reception

2. who said we wanted dance? most of us were here for a sound change in 2014 but at this point we're tired, like REALLY REALLY tired. she's been doing the same thing 5 years straight musically speaking. i'm still here for a change, but make it rock, or  r&b, or dancehall, or industrial, anything but music for soccer moms and white supremacists for the 4th time in a row

So only white supremacists listen to Joanne. Got it.

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