Gaga gains nothing by doing dance pop.

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1 hour ago, fabskt said:

There is an interview (From the Joanne era I think ?Can't find it) where gaga talks about how artists should be like...."I'm what's happening right now". I think that is so true, she doesn't need to worry about if the music that she is making will be accepted and bought by everyone, she's the artist, it's her job to create new things and break the molde. I totally agree with te op in the fact that by only releasing more toned down songs she would have a lot of certainty in her carrear but I don't think she is looking for that... just by saying it would be easier or expected would be enough for gaga to not want to do it tbh lol. The whole "I want to remind everyone that they don't know who lady gaga is" goes completely against that. Also pop music is so varied it literally could mean anything . I agree it would be the safest but I don't think she is looking for being safe.

I think it's either the beats 1 interview...??

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12 hours ago, witchcocktor said:

select fans who can't let go of the early 2010s. 

Correction 2013, and these "select fans" I would refer to them as the ARTPOP cultist.

12 hours ago, AndiGaga said:

"Dance pop" can be anything

And they want EDM, the worst of "Dance pop". 

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Gaga is a musical genius and dance-pop is what she can do well, and she isn't basic about it. I'm ready for the return of an EDM-Gaga. We've gotten enough for a ballad, soulful, Gaga with C2C, TIHTY, covers, Joanne, ASIB. We know she's talented. She no longer needs to prove herself to anyone. 

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14 minutes ago, Jadeykins said:

I think it's either the beats 1 interview...??

yessss it is! Thank you 

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9 minutes ago, GagaUnderYou said:

Gaga is a musical genius and dance-pop is what she can do well, and she isn't basic about it. I'm ready for the return of an EDM-Gaga. We've gotten enough for a ballad, soulful, Gaga with C2C, TIHTY, covers, Joanne, ASIB. We know she's talented. She no longer needs to prove herself to anyone. 

Delusiona Jenkins 

 

EDM is really a not so alive genre, Gaga's albums are being made in a manner where the factors of creative expression and commercial performance are considered equally. Imo I think 'proving herself' is a really shitty way to word it. 

 

Honestly my idea of Lg6 is an album which celebrates her roots while having minimal avant garde elements and a concept (celebration of roots, reverse warholian experience, commentary on identity and self acceptance, 'monsters', and the whole meta-commentary on fame) Visually I imagine it as somewhat dark/futuristic while colorful but mature and acknowledging her roots, this is probably enigma's influence on me, a literal GAGA album, (The Fame represents the 'famousga', the TFM are her monsters, Born This Way is her acceptance, ARTPOP is a study of the process of pop music and pop culture conceptually. ))

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3 hours ago, Judas Society said:

Tbh, I haven't been seeing all the high praise and hype from the kind of monsters who lament Gaga not making dance music. They just want something shallow (pun intended). Nothing wrong with wanting simple basic dance songs, but just pointing out that that is exactly the kind of low brow **** Gaga originally didn't want her music to be.

Dance music doesn't have to be Shallow.mp3 

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4 minutes ago, EdgeOfGloryGa said:

Im probably gonna regret asking this because you come across as like a literal cr*ckhead in ur posts (no shade) but in what way does ARTPOP come across as pretentious to you?

1. The Reverse Warholian Concept was was done as if it hadn't been done before and the idea of 'putting the artist' back in control, the idea it was so 'poetic and heavenly' despite it being really an EDM album about drugs and sex (nothing wrong with that)

2. I referenced the app and how 'legendary' it presented itself as this item that steers a massive cultural revolution despite it being a pretty lackluster app I think somewhere in this thread + a lot of interview content 

 

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34 minutes ago, EdgeOfGloryGa said:

You know honestly there’s no division between the ’alt-rock singer songwriter’ and the Gaga we all know and love and I know you get that but in what way to you think she gave that up. I mean you can always find hints of different sides of her on all albums. The Fame Monster had Speechless, Born This Way had Yoü & I, Joanne has Just Another Day. I mean, one of her signature songs Bad Romance. She literally growls/screams in the last chorus as of it was a rock song.

 

Random aside, but to this point,  “Electric Kiss” kind of feels like a locus root of that unified identity … a genesis point at the crux of “alt-rock singer songwriter” and “the Gaga we all know and love” (Electric Kiss as a title alone conjures, well, (Electronic) “Pop” … even though, there’s only one Gaga, so you either know and love said one, or you know and love a segment that doesn’t exist without the entirety, but anyway) … the synthesis of piano driven tone / structure and the message / method of electric connection as a medium … just a specific combination of the apparent juxtaposition between “acoustic authenticity” and pop contemporary … idk the thesis statement here, that song just feels like it remains a canon piece or compass in her entire musical journey since … or at least an early point of reference that bridges the apparent gap … a hybrid record that withstands — but tbh, I never know, just musing on a riff

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12 minutes ago, SeashellGangsta said:

1. The Reverse Warholian Concept was was done as if it hadn't been done before and the idea of 'putting the artist' back in control, the idea it was so 'poetic and heavenly' despite it being really an EDM album about drugs and sex (nothing wrong with that)

2. I referenced the app and how 'legendary' it presented itself as this item that steers a massive cultural revolution despite it being a pretty lackluster app I think somewhere in this thread + a lot of interview content 

 

Pretty much agree. I love Gaga but didn't follow her that closely during ARTPOP in part because I found the pretension tiring....I will say something in her defense, though: so many male artists are just as, if not more, pretentious and they face/faced very little blow back from the public and critics.

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Just now, LilyLark said:

Pretty much agree. I love Gaga but didn't follow her that closely during ARTPOP in part because I found the pretension tiring....I will say something in her defense, though: so many male artists are just as, if not more, pretentious and they face/faced very little blow back from the public and critics.

Honestly you're right in terms of a lot of male artists are really pretentious and haughty and that's a really interesting point. I still stand by the foundations of my original argument but your point is really good  

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I really think it's going to be a fusion of genres. Gaga doesn't like to repeat herself and DJWS already said it's not ARTPOP 2.0.  Producers will often adjust to fit an artist, but the ones rumored to be working with Gaga do tend to have a "different sound" (Anthony/rock, Boys Noize/techno, Rami/mainstream pop bops, etc.).  She probably considers the fans and the commercial aspect, but ultimately she goes with what she wants to make as an artist imo—which is a good thing.

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2 minutes ago, LilyLark said:

I really think it's going to be a fusion of genres. Gaga doesn't like to repeat herself and DJWS already said it's not ARTPOP 2.0.  Producers will often adjust to fit an artist, but the ones rumored to be working with Gaga do tend to have a "different sound" (Anthony/rock, Boys Noize/techno, Rami/mainstream pop bops, etc.).  She probably considers the fans and the commercial aspect, but ultimately she goes with what she wants to make as an artist imo—which is a good thing.

I completely agree!!

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18 hours ago, witchcocktor said:

She won't get streams, she won't get acclaim, she won't get awards, she won't get a hit, and I doubt her heart would be fully in it for another era of dance pop where she'll do some awkward choreography and yell '' PUT YOUR ****ING HANDS UP, SING IT, CMON! '' constantly on the stage. 

The only people who need '' bAsIc DaNcE pOp BoPs!!1111 '' are some select fans who can't let go of the early 2010s. 

Look, I'm not saying that if Gaga releases a pop album it's going to suck, on the contrary I'm sure it's going to be amazing, because Gaga is just that talented but geez, Gaga doesn't need pop music, only some of her fans do, LET'S BE REAL. The only way she is going to prosper in specifically in the dancey pop category is if she is able to COMPLETELY reinvent the entire industry as she did when she debuted, and asking that of Gaga is just too much. She already did her thing, she already revamped the scene, and her influence can be felt to this day. That is enough, is it not? 

There's a generational shift happening in popular music. A lot of us who were teenagers and grew up listening to Gaga, we are in our mid twenties now, and the new popular names in popular music are being aimed at a completely new generation of music listeners, teenagers of today. Gaga cannot compete with those new names, and Gaga definitely shouldn't do what they do, release similar music and/or try to appeal to that generation. Because in the end, she is not going to be relateable or interesting to that generation, so trying is moot.

If you want dance '' bops '' because you just happen to like that genre the most, I can understand that, I hear you. But don't ever think that she is going to blow up by doing straight up pop music. Because that is just SILLY! She is not that girl anymore.

But regardless, if Gaga wants to do dancey pops for the gay clubs, she will do just that. And I will love it because anything Gaga does, I'm here for it. But she doesn't need pop music, and pop music definitely won't revitalize her music career to where she was in her prime. I mean, she did repeak with ASIB, so what does that say about what kind of music would probably go down the best with the general public.

I'll end this probably blasphemous post with a few excellent performances, none of them being dance pop. And you tell me, straight into my face, that this isn't the kind of music Gaga should release for the rest of her damn life

 

I agree with some aspects of this but, ah.. the songs you just referenced as music she should pursue are COVERS.

I think there is a new kind of experimental, boundary-pushing pop that she has inside of her yet. Let's just be patient. 

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18 hours ago, Phoebe Buffay said:

well good luck to her losing her stans and making music for white supremacists and soccer moms. that makes everything she did and said from 2008-15 a total lie. abandoning your artistry just to appeal to the masses is something 2010 gaga wouldn't do.

THIS THIS THIS

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5 hours ago, EdgeOfGloryGa said:

You know honestly there’s no division between the ’alt-rock singer songwriter’ and the Gaga we all know and love and I know you get that but in what way to you think she gave that up. I mean you can always find hints of different sides of her on all albums. The Fame Monster had Speechless, Born This Way had Yoü & I, Joanne has Just Another Day. I mean, one of her signature songs Bad Romance. She literally growls/screams in the last chorus as of it was a rock song. I guess I’d like to understand what you meant by saying she gave up her dream of alt-rock songwriting?

I’m saying that people like the person I quoted are oblivious to the fact that Gaga started out writing ballads and acoustic singer songwriter music and now that she’s doing that again more prominently in her works they’re trying to discredit her because she was “originally a dance pop star”. While really Gaga put her ballads and acoustic songs to the side so she could focus on writing dance pop songs to achieve... the fame. People who think she’s somehow inauthentic now because her last three albums had little to no dance pop seem to forget the argument could be reversed and someone can say “well, maybe her first four albums were inauthentic because they were dance pop” (not that I think any of her music is inauthentic because of its structure).