LadariousGarage 1 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, ExMachina said: wow thanks we're cured Bitch Lets do it baby I know the Law Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, GagaUnderYou said: I don't hate Enigma but I don't love it either. Her wig is kind of off and the outfits are not as sharp as her tour ones. She looks like a Japanese video game character. Would have loved to see the Venus big hair, or even just a pretty blonde look from the European leg of TBTWBT. Venus hair: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/10/f3/9a/10f39aa530c72e25fdfda094eeca1bdb.png Gaga & Madeon: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ladygaga/images/6/66/9-26-12_Instagram_001.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121001202300 I wish she would have added Venus to the setlist and performed an unreleased track like Tea or something or even dark interludes featuring her and not animated. She should have gone all the way with the video game character imo... End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspiria 10,683 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Of course Gaga's voice and stage presence will make any show she does enjoyable. But that doesn't mean the other aspects don't matter. Enigma just doesn't give anything new or improved. All her other tours showed some sort of evolution and growth. TFBT - MBT 1.0 - MBT 2.0 - BTWB was a clear evolution in terms of spectacle and extravagance, creativity and imagination. Artrave was arguably a step backwards, but then JWT saw a massive improvement in terms of her vocals and dancing. Enigma shows no improvement in any areas... it's just a weak rehash of her previous shows mashed together in an unconvincing way, even she doesn't sound convinced. Nothing creative done with the music or storyline or stageing or set, no innovative new technology used. The most exciting thing is the "robot", which when you look at it is literally THE most basic prop it could possibly be (literally a box on a scissor lift with wobbly arms and legs the dancers can't even coordinate). And to top it off she just looks bad... (the fact 90% of the fanbase agrees on this is telling). For a $100M residency celebrating the career of the 21 century's most forward thinking, innovative and exciting mainstream pop star, known for her edgy and creative looks, pretentious high concepts, and extravagant stage sets, it just leaves a lot to be desired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonster 1,786 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 I don’t hate enigma, or hate Gaga or anything like that, I’d actually adore to go, and if I was in a place with Gaga performing OF COURSE i’ll always find it the best show ever even if it was in a damn empty lot with a big speaker, so saying people who go think it was amazing it’s expected, the energy and adrenaline live shows give, specially Gaga’s make the experience different. But I think more objectively speaking the show is just not as good quality as past shows and that’s it, why some people get so heated at that? Like people love to rank shows and to me Enigma as a concept and idea isn’t as good as past shows Gaga has done, it only has like, the robot to save it and that’s it, that blue wig, that neon and black outfit, and the simulation concept that just doesn’t work, it doesn’t feel as thought out as past shows do The part where most of us can’t attend doesn’t to me change the quality of the show, I’d probably still not think it’s better than the monsterball, I didn’t and don’t like the concept of the btwball and I got to attend that one and it didn’t change my mind, not liking something is fair?? I just try to stay respectful in my opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyB 27,926 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Maybe LM hate talent? 💋 𝕊𝕥𝕖𝕡 𝕐𝕒 ℂ𝕠𝕠𝕜𝕚𝕖𝕤 𝕌𝕡💋🍪 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 11,840 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 1 hour ago, 2School4Cool said: Honestly Enigma is a wonderful way to celebrate her career thus far. It’s over-the-top, fun, heartfelt, and full of Gaga songs. I don’t get how Lady Gaga fans can hate on a show that’s literally a recap of the music of her career so far. Just my opinion though, everyone is entitled to their opinions as well. I think the rub is that she’s done that on a lot of tours. She always makes it a retrospective of sorts. So while I agree with you and don’t hate Enigma, I can see where to some it doesn’t feel special. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister G 10,428 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 2 hours ago, DonatellaPop said: its really good, nice outfits, beautiful music, gaga like what else would u want? plus it the most gaga thing shes done recently why does it get so much hate? asking for a friend Because people think it could be better crafted compared to past tours like The Monster Ball Tour and The Born This Way Ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonatellaPop 3,482 Posted August 8, 2019 Author Share Posted August 8, 2019 38 minutes ago, Talenti said: Maybe LM hate talent? underrated comment https://blacklivesmatter.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 We've heard all the arrangements, seen almost all of the choreos, we've seen the storyline before, we've heard the "I love my friends" speeches,... the things we did get was an underused set, subpar costumes and wigs The real question is: what is there to praise? It's not even remotely ambitious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2School4Cool 6,447 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 19 minutes ago, Ziggy said: I think the rub is that she’s done that on a lot of tours. She always makes it a retrospective of sorts. So while I agree with you and don’t hate Enigma, I can see where to some it doesn’t feel special. I can respect that. I just guess my confusion comes from the fact that that’s what all artists do, they play their hits, that’s why people go see the show. At least it’s a new stage, new outfits, new story, new performances, etc. But of course I respect those who disagree, that’s just how I feel See The Best In Everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doncho 27,241 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 I dont get the hate. Its pure classic old Gaga, wich I LOVE. She delivers something special for fans and most of them call the show "cringy" or the outfits "cheap" Funny thing is, the hate is only on the internet. Every monster that saw it live loved it and its energy, so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracious Gaga 17,163 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Because it’s a bad show ♥ Kindness Police. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy232000 11,463 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Stage set up seems rather restricted and not well placed Outfits, make up and hair styling are horrible and dont frame Gagas face well vocals have been forced and strained no new music new choreo is minimal and not good the storyline is underdeveloped and rather cringy Its not accesible to 90% of this fanbase contrast with past tours makes it hard to appreciate the show Questioning of Gagas actual involvement in the craft of this project (seems she was not very present during the planing stages) —— the only pros I can point out IMO: the visual media and backdrops are outstanding props like the piano and robot are theatrical, practical yet impressive gaga’s energy and performance skills The Set list is a good balance between her hits and some fan favorites (which is really what the show is supposed to be) —— also, I cant even with the people saying we only hate it cause its a residency smh...90% of this fanbase loves the jazz and piano shows yet hates Enigma 🤷🏼♂️. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caprice 57 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 2 hours ago, 2School4Cool said: Honestly Enigma is a wonderful way to celebrate her career thus far. It’s over-the-top, fun, heartfelt, and full of Gaga songs. I don’t get how Lady Gaga fans can hate on a show that’s literally a recap of the music of her career so far. Just my opinion though, everyone is entitled to their opinions as well. This exactly what's wrong with it. Enigma is all the things fans want gaga to bring back but she shouldn't because "she doesn't do the same **** twice". She has been saying this since the beginning. Innovation was always her handle. Enigma is so gaga it's not gaga at all. The irony of calling a show that reduces gaga to gimmick 'Enigma'. I kind of live for that tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caprice 57 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, Doncho said: I dont get the hate. Its pure classic old Gaga, wich I LOVE. She delivers something special for fans and most of them call the show "cringy" or the outfits "cheap" Funny thing is, the hate is only on the internet. Every monster that saw it live loved it and its energy, so I see this argument a lot and I don't get it. Vegas is expensive so most people who are willing to pay that much already like it. Everything extra about the actual experience would only make it better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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