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Lord Temptation
1 hour ago, Didymus said:

One important reason is that the term "mass shooting" has simply become more popular among journalists in the last couple of years, giving off the impression that it happens a lot more regularly, while this frequency is in reality very hard to discern.

Another very important reason is that experts or journalists usually use a random date to measure mass shooting frequency, for example counting mass shootings from the year 2000 onwards when 2000 was (coincidentally) a very "weak" year for mass shootings.

So overall it really is just impression :shrug: John R. Lott Jr. did a great research piece about it for the newsletter of the ACJS, showing that if you start counting from the '70s, mass shootings actually have only increased with less than 1% per year. So it definitely did happen in the past.

I agree that the way journalists and mass media report violent crime has had feedback effects. We are now in the 24 hour news cycle, which incidentally took off about 30 years ago. In many respects these big media corporations encourage men to create violent, public spectacles. Remember the Oklahoma City bombing of 1995 or the Unabomber? These all happened right after 24 hour cable news stations took off. Columbine happened not long after. Sadly, social media is compounding the phenomenon: the Christchurch gunman livestreamed his murderous rampage for all to see. Technology and media AS WELL as politics and religion all have played a part.

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Serial Chiller
1 hour ago, Didymus said:

One important reason is that the term "mass shooting" has simply become more popular among journalists in the last couple of years, giving off the impression that it happens a lot more regularly, while this frequency is in reality very hard to discern.

Another very important reason is that experts or journalists usually use a random date to measure mass shooting frequency, for example counting mass shootings from the year 2000 onwards when 2000 was (coincidentally) a very "weak" year for mass shootings.

So overall it really is just impression :shrug: John R. Lott Jr. did a great research piece about it for the newsletter of the ACJS, showing that if you start counting from the '70s, mass shootings actually have only increased with less than 1% per year. So it definitely did happen in the past.

I don't want to argue about 'frequency' or such, but an undeniable fact is that mass shootings in America have increased in scale and deadliness thanks to the wide accessibility of MASS killing weapons - the automatic rifle, as well as constant hate fuel, particularly racial and religious. A quick wiki search of the 25 deadliest U.S. mass shooting events of ALL TIME showed me that of those 25, 15 are from THIS decade.

This is not a case of media data manipulation. Potential shooters have definitely become more emboldened to 'take on' these large scale bloodbaths. 

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Antoni

He went on TV and blamed the real issues: racism, white supremacy, and domestic terrorism.

Then he immediately went on Twitter and pandered to his base. 

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lego
1 minute ago, Timmers said:

He went on TV and blamed the real issues: racism, white supremacy, and domestic terrorism.

Then he immediately went on Twitter and pandered to his base. 

 

yeah about that, this guy said really well 

 

 

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Antoni
1 minute ago, lego said:

 

yeah about that, this guy said really well 

 

 

I'm not defending him at all. Trump's real thoughts on the issue have always been clear, and his TelePrompTer (idk why auto-correct added those caps) speech seemed like a lazy attempt at saving face on mainstream news.

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djBuffoon
3 hours ago, RahrahWitch said:

He makes my blood boil, I can't even imagine how people living in america feel about him.

We’re thoroughly embarrassed and disgusted.

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lego
9 minutes ago, Timmers said:

I'm not defending him at all. Trump's real thoughts on the issue have always been clear, and his TelePrompTer (idk why auto-correct added those caps) speech seemed like a lazy attempt at saving face on mainstream news.

 

I know you’re not, I’m just adding this. 👍 

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whore
3 hours ago, RahrahWitch said:

He makes my blood boil, I can't even imagine how people living in america feel about him.

Very split demographic. There are the people who are delusional and believe he can do no wrong, and the people who are disgusted with every move he makes. I’ve never seen such a divisive person, let alone a president, before. 

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Didymus
1 hour ago, Serial Chiller said:

I don't want to argue about 'frequency' or such, but an undeniable fact is that mass shootings in America have increased in scale and deadliness thanks to the wide accessibility of MASS killing weapons - the automatic rifle, as well as constant hate fuel, particularly racial and religious. A quick wiki search of the 25 deadliest U.S. mass shooting events of ALL TIME showed me that of those 25, 15 are from THIS decade. 

This is not a case of media data manipulation. Potential shooters have definitely become more emboldened to 'take on' these large scale bloodbaths

Well, both of our points aren't mutually exclusive :hug: Thanks for sharing that observation.

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