Mario Lopez calls trans children ‘alarming’

[not a french fry 1,565]

32 minutes ago, Dolce Vita said:

I think it is absolutely up to the child to fully decide their identity for themselves and whether they wish to transition. ONLY them. Parents that selfishly take it into their own hands are dangerous. 

As a child I wanted to be a girl so badly. I remember telling my parents and I went through all the classic things: playing with dolls, wearing scarves on my head to act as long hair, wearing my sisters makeup and clothes. Now as a 19 year old boy, I guess I’m happy with who I am, and I feel more so androgynous/non conforming to Male/female gender clothing. I’m happy that my parents allowed me to decide for myself rather than acting on the signs and what I was telling them. 

Obviously this is my own personal story, I can’t speak on behalf of every child.

Gurl I’m still wearing scarves on my head

[geopang 4,831]

47 minutes ago, uo111 said:

 

Puberty = hormones.

Forcing people to undergo hormone therapy IS sick, we can agree on that. So why would you force a transgender man to undergo estrogen therapy by depriving them of their right to choose? That's sick.

There’s a difference between undergoing natural puberty with hormones your body will naturally produce, and taking synthetic hormones that have been shown to sterilize, and have long term negative effects in the long run. Plus there is not enough sufficient research that shows if synthetic hormone treatment is safe for children. Can’t believe we’re even comparing the two right now.

[Mirages 20,259]

1 hour ago, Swallow said:

He is absolutely right. Some 3 year olds still use diapers and their parents are supposed to let them go through a sex change surgery?

Honestly there should be an age limit. Like 18 or in extreme cases 16 or 17.

There is a age limit for the surguries, but no one can stop you from buying hormone supplements 

[Adakam 2]

I agree actually, and I dont think thats transphobia, kids see life in different ways than adults do, and their imagination can lead them to believe things that are different. And you also have to analyze the environment around that child, for example, maybe your boy kid has to spend a lot of time with girls in his school, or maybe have a lot of girl cousins, which may lead him to be more interested in girl toys, clothes, etc. 

Like he said, kids want to be superheroes, mermaids, wizards, etc. How can we expect that changing gender is a well informed choice and not a result of their own imagination?

And if when that child grows up and is more mentally able to make life choices, doesnt want to be the opposite gender anymore, it might be a mess to try to go back to their normal hormones and stuff, not to mention the social implications.

 

What I do agree with that another user said, is that we should stop with those gender preferences like "pink vs blue", so your kid actually has an open road to decide later in life and its not preprogrammed to follow their birth gender.

[Andreu 37,216]

1 hour ago, Young Pancake said:

When I was six-seven I used to wish I was a girl. I thought being a girl was going to solve my problem of being gay. Now I’m twenty-three and I’m happy with my body. I hate identifying as a man but I wouldn’t want to have a different body. Sometimes age does play a role and you grown out of thinking one way like me. 

Exactly the same happened to me. At 7 or so I was looking forward to being 18 so I could become a woman because everybody gave me a wrong explaination of what did it mean to be a boy and I didnt knew homosexuality existed so

[davflz 3,293]

1 hour ago, Swallow said:

He is absolutely right. Some 3 year olds still use diapers and their parents are supposed to let them go through a sex change surgery?

Honestly there should be an age limit. Like 18 or in extreme cases 16 or 17.

lmao you obviously have no f*cking clue what the progress of transitioning actually looks like. No one would even consider operating on a child. Also the age limit you suggest is already in place. It's virtually impossible to go through gender reassignment surgery before at least 16, but realistically 18. The only thing a minor could be put under is hormone blockers at the beginning of puberty to give them more time to find themselves and eventually hormone therapy later on if they have seen multiple psychologists and have expressed gender dysphoria for years.

Stop trying to spread this fear mongering bullshit that a child can say they feel like a girl once and someone is going to inject them with estrogen in the next 5 minutes. This type of thinking makes actual mature and nuanced discussion of transgender children so much harder.

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1 hour ago, Rainbow1 said:

Lopez said parents with kids who want to self-identify their gender must, “be the adult in the situation” and said that these conversations and determinations about gender shouldn’t happen until the child’s “formative years,” though he did not specify what age that meant. When Owens asked about playdates with families like this, Lopez responded, “they don’t kick with those kids.”

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 He thought he was cool

[ladylinners 485]

Sex-reasignment surgery is usually not done until you reach the age of 18. And hormone treatments are given around puberty in conjuction with doctors. 

I don't really see anything wrong with letting your 3 year old dress and play with what they want. What's so wrong with a young child saying they want to be a boy/girl and letting them wear dresses or trousers? You're not forcing anything on a small child and if they decide later on that they are happy in their current gender than good on you for letting your child dress and play with the toys they wanted to. 

Seriously, my youngest niece doesn't like the colour pink. She loves blue and yellow and she loves Pokemon and Paw Patrol (her favourites are Chase and Marshall). Why should I buy her pink clothes with Skye and Everest when she wants blue or red clothes with Chase and Marshall? She doesn't like Barbies or dolls but would rather play with Lego. Her older sister loves Star Wars but also loves horses. 

I had a boy I used to babysit who loved pink and Hello Kitty. He loved his sister's dress-up clothes and high-heels. I loved dressing him in pink because that's what he loved. 

Forcing gender sterotypes on a child is more harming than letting your child express themselves. There shouldn't be boy or girl clothes, toys or colours. Children are naturally gender fluid and it is society that shapes them and force them into boxes. I have older brothers and sisters. My mom worked as a daycare mom and she always had a mix of toys. We got to play with what we wanted. Over the years girls and boys have played with Barbies, trains, cars, lego etc. Only imagination could stop us. 

I have seen so many boys at nursery play house with dolls. Pretending to be moms and dads with their children. Girls have played with dublo and lego. Boys and girls playing house together and boys pretend to be moms and then running outside to play bus drivers or pretending to be monster trucks.

When I hear comments like that from parents [ie Mario Lopez] all I think is that they are enforcing sterotypes that are harming their children and children in their surroundings. That's the parents that tell their sons that you cannot cry because only girls cry, or pink is only for girls. Or telling their daughters that you cannot play that sport because it's only for boys, or that you cannot play with cars or wear trousers. STOP USING GENDER STEROTYPES!

My oldest nephew used to dress up as Pippi Longstocking and play with Barbie dolls and Barbie cars, and had a pink tricycle as a child. He's one of the most wellrounded young men I know. Polite, helps out at home. Gentleman to his girlfriend of four years. Got into college this year. Worked every summer since the age of 14. Loves soccer, and played it for like 13 years. Happy childhood, happy young man. 

LET KIDS BE KIDS! Let them figure out who they are and who they want to be. Only imagination should stop them. I used to paint the fingernails of the boys I babysat because they thought it was cool because I painted my nails. My nephews paints their nails. One boy at the nursery where I work loves wearing princess dresses. His dad happily hugs him and tells him how great he looks when he picks him up. That's parenting! Enforcing societal gender sterotypes on children is NOT enriching your child's upbringing. It's limiting their growing personality and ways of expression. 

 

 

 

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He’s dense but not wrong. Me personally having taken a few psychology courses believe that kids need to grow up before they can make decisions. Life changes and so does the minds of kids. If they stilL believe they join the T in LGBT when they are socially aware and mature enough to do so then go for it. But allowing a 5 year old to decide something so large is a little... ehh irresponsible. 

[Swallow 12,052]

12 minutes ago, davflz said:

lmao you obviously have no f*cking clue what the progress of transitioning actually looks like. No one would even consider operating on a child. Also the age limit you suggest is already in place. It's virtually impossible to go through gender reassignment surgery before at least 16, but realistically 18. The only thing a minor could be put under is hormone blockers at the beginning of puberty to give them more time to find themselves and eventually hormone therapy later on if they have seen multiple psychologists and have expressed gender dysphoria for years.

Stop trying to spread this fear mongering bullshit that a child can say they feel like a girl once and someone is going to inject them with estrogen in the next 5 minutes. This type of thinking makes actual mature and nuanced discussion of transgender children so much harder.

whatever

"transgender children" shouldn't even be a term. They are children. 

[davflz 3,293]

2 minutes ago, Swallow said:

whatever

"transgender children" shouldn't even be a term. They are children. 

you realize adult transgender people were once children right? Most of them already had feelings of gender dysphoria back then. Just because the idea of trans people makes some people uncomfortable doesn't mean we should push children going through these things under the rug. By not acknowledging gender-non conforming children you are intentionally being ignorant towards reality.  

Children expressing signs of gender non-conformity should have resources and specialists available that can help them and their parents figure out their future and potentially measures towards transition when the time is right and their condition turns out to be consistent.

Ignoring these signs and denying these questioning children any answers is just going to lead to internalized self hatred and in many cases depression. 

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I firmly believe that people should wait until they're at least 18 before they begin transitioning.

[Swallow 12,052]

7 minutes ago, davflz said:

you realize adult transgender people were once children right? Most of them already had feelings of gender dysphoria back then. Just because the idea of trans people makes some people uncomfortable doesn't mean we should push children going through these things under the rug. By not acknowledging gender-non conforming children you are intentionally being ignorant towards reality.  

Children expressing signs of gender non-conformity should have resources and specialists available that can help them and their parents figure out their future and potentially measures towards transition when the time is right and their condition turns out to be consistent.

Ignoring these signs and denying these questioning children any answers is just going to lead to internalized self hatred and in many cases depression. 

gurl I never said you cannot be transgender while you are a child. I meant that the term "transgender children" implies they are in the process of transitioning, taking hormons, preparing for a surgery or similiar when in reality they can be just confused, end up being non-binary, or fully go with the transition when they become adults. 

That term is just weird to me, it's like segregating a certain type of children because of some doubts they are having about their identity.

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2 hours ago, Young Pancake said:

When I was six-seven I used to wish I was a girl. I thought being a girl was going to solve my problem of being gay. Now I’m twenty-three and I’m happy with my body. I hate identifying as a man but I wouldn’t want to have a different body. Sometimes age does play a role and you grown out of thinking one way like me. 

Was about to say the same. I liked boys but I didn't understand the concept of being gay so I cried that I wanted to be a girl but now I identify as gay male and I'm happy with myself 

[ladylinners 485]

Read "Becoming Nicole" about Nicole Maines. She's the first transgender superhero on television (she plays Nia Nal on Supergirl). Her parents also sued her school for not allowing Nicole to use the girls' bathroom. Read Doe v. Regional School Unit 26 (https://www.glad.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/doe-v-clenchy-decision-1-30-14.pdf)