Hebi 13,928 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Just now, KatieJudasGaga4 said: Correction: Joanne is a masterpiece, so is ARTPOP, so is TFM, so is BTW, so is ASIB and so is TF Well, musically they are, but I meant in terms of cohesion based on the main theme of the albums. Like Joanne has a lot of songs that have nothing to do with Gaga's late aunt or ARTPOP has a lot of songs that doesn't talk exactly about Art Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanxDream 2,049 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Reloaded should've replaced Teeth or Speechless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Nook 37,808 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 The Fame Monster sweetie... I am SO sorry.... Uh Red Wine... Convict... Gah Gah... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumzy3000 7,355 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Hell no. The Fame Monster is her best work (although I think all her stuff is amazing ) but I agree to a degree it’s not cohesive as say Born This Way, which had some main themes and music styles, but it still works as a great dark pop album. Consider also that before this, Gaga only released The Fame which was happy bubble gum pop. The dark lyrics and edgy sound made The Fame Monster standout and in a way cohesive. So please, do not say it’s a messy album unless you actually have some constructive criticism or reasons. Thanks. trolly troll troll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazz Monster 19,353 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Loeppke said: would run the risk of diluting the concept and having fillers. Just think of Born This Way It’s a mess but it’s the most straight-to-the-point she’s ever had for a record BTW is a masterpiece from top to bottom, there are no fillers in it We're far from the Shallow now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsieurRed 299 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 I mean we consider TFM an album but it was released as an EP and reissue of TF so it was never really meant to “flow” 🧚♀️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakariah 11,722 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 if TFM is a mess, then the other pop guys & girls only WISH they could achieve such a masterful mess of a record Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 It's literally perfect. So no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfFfFfFF 56,094 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 No, is not. It's a pop classic, arguably her magnum opus and one of her most cohesive albums. There is nothing off about the tracklisting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriane 21,118 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 A mess, no. But the most cohesive ? Absolutely not. The only GGD member who can read / Credits to Celloo Deng for the profile pic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatherinePierce 221 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 No. ARTPOP and BTW were messy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Empty 25,237 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Sonically it is, in my opinion. And contrary to what y'all drama queens are saying, that doesn't mean it's a bad album. Three productions on the album don't match any of the other songs: Teeth, DITD and Speechless (to be clear, I love all these songs) - Teeth barely has any electronic elements, sound sort of tribal, and it's the only song where her voice isn't stylised in any way. It's the only song that doesn't follow the typical pop structure. - DITD would've fit perfectly on BTW with it's heavily distorted sound and even the theme. The only song that sort of matches on TFM is Bad Romance. - Speechless is the least fitting. The retro sound, the accent, and the lack of synths. It shares no production elements with any other songs. Even thematically I think it doesn't really match the other "fears", as this is the only fear driven by something external, and not her personal psyche. The other songs all match relatively well. Clean, modern, somewhat industrial synths. Boppable. It's a diverse album, and it's great, but the style is a little all over the place. You could say the same about ARTPOP, but at least there I get the feeling it was intentional, as that whole era was centred around transforming every second. Happiness will never last, darkness comes to kick your ass... ᵃˢˢ 🕺 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVeryGagaHolyDick 25,754 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Loeppke said: It’s hard to organize such a variety of eight tracks, if more songs were included than it most likely would have flowed more cohesively i think maybe it would have been more cohesive if it were organized like this: 1. Bad Romance 2. Telephone 3. Dance In The Dark 4. Monster 5. Alejandro 6. So Happy I Could Die 7. Speechless 8. Teeth And don’t get me started on adding “Out Of Control” and “Reloaded” so that maybe this would have been a real album but adding more tracks, such as “Glitter And Grease” or “Animal” would run the risk of diluting the concept and having fillers. Just think of Born This Way It’s a mess but it’s the most straight-to-the-point she’s ever had for a record sorry but there's not a single filler on Born This Way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
not a french fry 1,565 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 8 hours ago, Enzo said: what about stopping with these controversial threads? Look who’s talking 🐽 social experiment gone wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 16,010 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 I mean her concept of “Monsters” is kinda convoluted, it’s probably her second most convoluted album after ARTPOP but it’s good nonetheless. I still want an album full of SHICD songs, an R&B life Dreampop album would snatch me bald. She has the vocals for R&B more than any other genre so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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