Hybrid AT 78 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 On 7/19/2019 at 6:09 PM, HorusRa2 said: You clearly cannot read.Β Β I lookΒ forward to seeing the policies his new Policy Director who so graciously came from his background as a Goldman Sach executiveΒ to help Pete figure out what to stand for that will benefit big banks. We stan a corporate democrat vessel.Β Irony dies a slow death. You clearly didn't even attempt to search about her first before making this ignorant and stupid remark.Β Β You could have stuck to discussing wages but you had to bring in policies somehow. On top of that, your erasure attempt to reduce her to just a "Goldman Sachs" executive is startling, to say the least. Let's educate you a little bit, shall we? That "Goldman Sachs" executive's name is Sonal Shah, an enormously accomplished woman of color who has spent her life advancing progressive causes Firstly, she was never a Goldman Sachs "executive." She was a vice president. While that title sounds extremely high, in finance, "vice president" is an outdated title that signifies people who are authorized to sign documents on behalf of the company. The nice person who signed your mortgage is a vice president. The position isn't given it to everybody though, just responsible qualified people. Secondly, her work at Goldman Sachs was extremely progressive. To quote the Pete campaign,Β "She developed and managed Goldman Sachsβ environmental strategy. She trained bankers to ask environmental questions, managed the grants to non-profits, and worked with their real estate team on how to build more green buildings." Whether you like Goldman Sachs or not, she did work to help the environment. Her ties to the company are like Pete's ties to McKinsey during his grocery pricing work. It's one line on her resume, from 2004 to 2007. After Goldman, she became an executive at Google, working in its philanthropic arm, becoming the head of Global Development Initiatives, helping develop socially beneficial investment schemes for the company, helping the global poor. Then she worked in policy development for the Obama administration, as the deputy assistant to the president and director of the White House Office of Social Innovation. She now works as a professor at Georgetown, where she's the executive director of the Beeck Center for Social Impact and Innovation. Her life has been dedicated to using technology and business to benefit society. In short, she's a badass woman of color who has broken glass ceilings in the finance and business world, is highly qualified, and has a range of experiences in helping push for progressive policies. Reducing her to one of her employers, with no thought to the work she's done is reductionist and awful. Had she joined Bernie's campaign, y'all would have praised the campaigns to highest heavens for recruiting a woman of color. But when it comes to other campaigns, and doing poor research, you reduce her to an executive from an "evil company". I have to laugh, but the hypocrisy is shockingly real. Stop with the whataboutism. It's ridiculous. Β "I was protected by the monks of Azarath, I was raised by my friends. They are my family, this is my home and you are not welcome here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Stop it now. They are SALARIED and unionized workers who were making $36k which corresponds to about $17/h. They were working overtime so the hourly fell but he's cutting the hours now to make sure everyone gets at least $15. Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid AT 78 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, derpmonster said: Stop it now. They are SALARIED and unionized workers who were making $36k which corresponds to about $17/h. They were working overtime so the hourly fell but he's cutting the hours now to make sure everyone gets at least $15. Got it. I just had to call some people out on their hypocrisy, that's it. We all can do better by being objective, keeping our personal biases aside. π "I was protected by the monks of Azarath, I was raised by my friends. They are my family, this is my home and you are not welcome here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverLoader 1,254 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 You can tell once this field narrows down, it's gonna get real ****ing dirty fast. They gonna turn on each other like Hyena's around a Zebra corpse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 2 hours ago, derpmonster said: Stop it now. They are SALARIED and unionized workers who were making $36k which corresponds to about $17/h. They were working overtime so the hourly fell but he's cutting the hours now to make sure everyone gets at least $15. Per hr = per hr If he proposed per x then there would be no thread about this mess up. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 15 hours ago, Woolfsmck said: Per hr = per hr If he proposed per x then there would be no thread about this mess up. If you know how employment works in America, you'd know that salary is considered superior to hourly pay because it is guaranteed.Β Per hour is usually for entry level jobs where they can't afford to pay salaries. This guy was giving salaries (much more than the legal minimum wage which is per hour), again, about $17/h if they didn't work overtime. Now that his workers have voiced that they're working overtime, he's remedying the situation by making them work fewer hours.Β Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, derpmonster said: If you know how employment works in America, you'd know that salary is considered superior to hourly pay because it is guaranteed.Β Per hour is usually for entry level jobs where they can't afford to pay salaries. This guy was giving salaries (much more than the legal minimum wage which is per hour), again, about $17/h if they didn't work overtime. Now that his workers have voiced that they're working overtime, he's remedying the situation by making them work fewer hours.Β It's semantics..Β Β You and I know that the jobs Bernie's campaign works have and the laws he is proposing are good jobs.Β Β What it's ginna do is eliminate employer exploration.Β Β AND squeeze out small marginal ones.Β Β It will help bigger get bigger like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 18 hours ago, derpmonster said: Stop it now. They are SALARIED and unionized workers who were making $36k which corresponds to about $17/h. They were working overtime so the hourly fell but he's cutting the hours now to make sure everyone gets at least $15. They are cutting the hours now that the people working protested about it. Sanders nowΒ wants to have workersΒ pay more for insurance, if heΒ paysΒ them the bare minimum working wage.Β Sanders campaign was not paying $15/h...not for sixty hours a week of work. His campaign was having people work every day, for weeks on end, for less than βa fair working wageβ.Β Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid AT 78 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 and i oop- π "I was protected by the monks of Azarath, I was raised by my friends. They are my family, this is my home and you are not welcome here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, HybridAT said: and i oop- π This is not going to play well with his image. I wonder if someone will bring it up at the upcoming debates?Β Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctherainbow 3,162 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Any other candidateβs stans @ news like this about their candidate: Β βOh wow, this is a serious misstepΒ in policy, or at the very least in optics; I hope they rectify this as soon as possible and are more careful moving forward.β Bernie stans @ news like this about Bernie: Β βOh wow, how dare you question our LordT and savior Berniesus Sandchrist! Β He is perfect and literally all other politicians, if not all other humans, besides him are actual trash.β Β Β Β I get that you guys are passionate about your candidate, but... the level of worship is far too much. Β Β Β Β I'm talkin' 'bout forever, baby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJRocketMan 2,684 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Elizabeth Warren for the win! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uo111 5,283 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Salaried work is a scam. I do have to question Bernie being singled out here though. Am I really expected to believe that a $36000 salary and great benefits is bad for this kind of work? Like, what do other campaign staffers make, cause if itβs less than or equal toΒ this itβs a non-issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraLove 1,282 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 On 7/19/2019 at 5:41 PM, Woolfsmck said: https://amp-cnn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/07/19/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-union-clash/index.html?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From %1%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2019%2F07%2F19%2Fpolitics%2Fbernie-sanders-campaign-union-clash%2Findex.html " """(CNN)Sen.Β Bernie SandersΒ is a staple on the front lines of the labor fight, leading the charge in Washington and around the country to raise theΒ minimum wageΒ for workers to $15 an hour. But within his own campaign, which unionized earlier this year, tense discussions over pay have spilled out into public view."" Β Campaignworkers want their $15 hr . .... ..... Not a good look here Bern. π₯ΊΒ Β This was only because they ended up working more than forty hours a week (as campaigns usually require as I've seen from personal experience (I'm running two Nashville Metro Council races right now and I definitely devote more than forty hours)). They fought for higher pay with the approval of the higher-ups and will now end up getting more than $15/hr. This is what unions are for - negotiation. At least Sanders pays interns and doesn't offer them free of pay "fellowships" like Warren and Biden apparently do... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 hours ago, uo111 said: Salaried work is a scam. I do have to question Bernie being singled out here though. Am I really expected to believe that a $36000 salary and great benefits is bad for this kind of work? Like, what do other campaign staffers make, cause if itβs less than or equal toΒ this itβs a non-issue. Warrenβs and Peteβs campaigns pay 15/h and up with healthcare paid. Iβm not sure about the others.Β Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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