Scooter did nothing wrong

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

Just now, Felixorfelicia said:

They even made a petition against that scooter guy, sure that’s gonna break a contract ! 

Lol 

It’s great PR for her though, it makes it look as though she is “fighting for her art and for all artists” LMAO 

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1 hour ago, pedrohemg said:

Polemic thread here but some things need to be said. Scooter bought Big Machine Label Group for US$ 300.000.000. That's a huge amount of money. Are Taylor really considering he only did that because of her? Only to control her? That doesn't make sense. He saw a great business opportunity and he took it, that's all.

Taylor dislikes him, I understand that. She also wants to own 100% of her albums but that's not how things work in the industry. Tell me how many singers possesses 100% of their song rights. Record companies generally provide all the necessary structure for singers, composers, producers to work on an album. They invest money in production and marketing, so they own 60% of any songs published under their label. You may argue if this is right or not but things have been like this since always.

Also, why should we attack Scooter because of Taylor's words when there are other professionals supporting him, including women (Demi, SIA)? They know him better than Taylor does, I suppose. They've worked with him. It seems we're again in a crusade to destroy a man image only because he's a man and there's a woman against him. This have become pretty common in the last couple of years.

I agree with you 150% and then some. I can't believe they are dragging Sia and Demi so cruelly. I might get hate for this, but if an industry executive like Scooter came out and said that Taylor Swift sexually assaulted him, NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN. People would defend Taylor without batting an eye. All of this outrage is a result of men-hating internet culture. There are zero facts to support that Scooter directly bullied/controlled Taylor. If I were Scooter, I'd sue Taylor for slander & defamation of character.

[Felixorfelicia 1,798]

5 minutes ago, hausga said:

wow guys so if shes playing a victim here which as many people i seen write in the comments says its nowadays a trend for woman to only "speak up" and make such accusation or play the typical female damsel in distress could we say the same for gaga cuz we could also call her a manipulative person for changing the story in the r kelly scandal. if you are trying to bring the entire female community down over this trend of making men feel oppressive you might as well apply this to lady gaga as well.

i am sorry i have to go to this step to explain my view and i honestly don't care how many wp points i,ll receive for it . but honestly please don,t be hypocritical when something similiar happens to gaga and once again you guys decide to change your narrative

 

 

You have a point, and idk much about taylor so i wouldn’t have a reason to call her a victim, BUT i have to say if this happened to gaga i’d feel more connected to the whole thing but i’d still say: a contract remains a contract. 

But tbh i think gaga’s smart enough to read it and understand what the consequences may be

[Siena 6,262]

Prior to this I’ve never payed attention to scooter and I’ve always been pretty indifferent towards Taylor. That being said I see this whole thing pretty unbiased and honestly I understand both sides. It makes sense Taylor wants the rights to all of her work, and it also makes sense why Scooter would jump on a business deal that will make him a lot of $$$. I do notice that Taylor tends to play the victim card, A LOT, but at the end of the day I don’t see it as a right vs wrong side situation. 

Edit: also I don’t understand why a lot of people are making this a sexist issue? Yes the entertainment industry can be tough if you’re a women, I’m not denying that. However what scooter is doing is in the name of business, not sexism. Just because an unfortunate thing is happening to a woman doesn’t mean it’s being done with sexist intent. 

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I can't even at the amount of people thinking it's ok for someone to not own all of their work because it's just the nature of the "business". People like Scooter and other men in the music business take advantage of these young girls at a very early age it's criminal. What's happening and been happening for years to all these female popstars is wrong on so many levels and needs to stop. Change needs to happen and it won't if people don't speak up and actually do something about it. 

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

4 minutes ago, hausga said:

wow guys so if shes playing a victim here which as many people i seen write in the comments says its nowadays a trend for woman to only "speak up" and make such accusation or play the typical female damsel in distress could we say the same for gaga cuz we could also call her a manipulative person for changing the story in the r kelly scandal. if you are trying to bring the entire female community down over this trend of making men feel oppressive you might as well apply this to lady gaga as well.

i am sorry i have to go to this step to explain my view and i honestly don't care how many wp points i,ll receive for it . but honestly please don,t be hypocritical when something similiar happens to gaga and once again you guys decide to change your narrative

 

 

This is about MONEY, not WOMEN. Her parents and her made an investment that they are now selling, at a great profit. If you see the issue as anything more than that then the PR is working.

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Honestly I don’t trust any Hollywood drama solely due to the fact that nowadays anything and everything is a marketing scheme.

How many debunked/ exposed to be fake drama has there been that’s been forgotten?  I can’t be bothered anymore. 

[Mister G 10,427]

6 minutes ago, hausga said:

its look like some people are getting afraid of a touch something called female empowerment as i see or is it the fear of the opposite sex loosing control over the decision  

Right and I’m not trying to pin this saying it’s exclusive to female artists. Just very disturbing that the last several instances of problems like this surfacing happened to have involved women. At the very least the ones that have gone public.

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28 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

Exactly. This was part of the plan all along. Yet once again she gets to play the victim.

Since when can 15 year olds enter into contracts? Strange isn’t it? 

This

(Plus honnestly, let's not pretend that the label thought "Oh my God, she's so talented, let's sign her!")

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It is wrong when you key in that 150 million dollars of the 300 million dollars that Big Machine was bought for and is valued at comes from Taylor’s discography. 

Sh deserves to have been given a fair shot to buy her work,  not chained like a slave to a label to “earn” her work.

 

[Luna Lovegood 24,372]

I in no way trying to side Taylor on this one because I don’t know who is 100% right BUT, turns out, scooterbraun's Ithaca Holdings, which recently bought Big Machine Records, has CARLYLE GROUP as a SHAREHOLDER.

What/who is Carlyle Group?

Carlyle Group is notorious for funding genocide in Yemen, among several other atrocities to humanity.

 

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1 hour ago, Faysalaaa said:

I agree with you 100% but I think the industry needs a big change. And there should also be laws to protect young people from long term contracts that effected Taylor, JoJo, Kesha, and many more artists. But I see nothing wrong with what scooter did. Remember how Michael Jackson was attacked for owning the Beatles music and record labels tried getting it back?

Scooter did not stop Taylor from owning her own Music, its her old record label that did. Taylor is not mad because she cant own her music, shes mad because she wants to control who owns her music.

Michael Jackson out bid Paul McCarthy. That is not the same thing. Taylor didn't have a chance to buy her music. She was told to resign or no deal basically.

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1 hour ago, FlopSlurper said:

That's not true. They refused to sell her anything, her only option was singing her life to them, go read the contract.

she didn't leave because she wanted to, she left because she had no choice. it was either she signs her life to them and get her past work, or leave and secure her future. But go ahead and hate

Taylor Swift leaves the rights to her work with Big Machine knowing full well this move will mean giving up the rights to her masters. She made the decision to leave the label and now wants sympathy because she didn’t get to control what happens after she left.

Fast forward someone comes along and purchases something she willingly gave up and she gets to play victim...people really need to stop stanning and defending someone who is so transparently manipulative. 

She uses the gay community when it suits her, lies to play victim in a poor little white girl vs mean black guy scenario (gets exposed hard), exploits her relationships with men, and now she gets to play poor victim again. She’s built a career on mediocre talent and manipulation.

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It's just her classic victim role

[FlopSlurper 34,336]

Just now, Wifey said:

Taylor Swift leaves the rights to her work with Big Machine knowing full well this move will mean giving up the rights to her masters.

Fast forward someone comes along and purchases something she willingly gave up and she gets to play victim...people really need to stop stanning and defending someone who is so transparently manipulative. 

She uses the gay community when it suits her, lies to play victim in a poor little white girl vs mean black guy scenario (gets exposed hard), exploits her relationships with men, and now she gets to play poor victim again. She’s built a career on mediocre talent and playing the victim. 

did you skip the part where she wasn't offered the right to buy her music or? she left because SHE HAD TO, she literally had to either sign her life to them or leave, is it that difficult to understand?

"little white girl vs mean black guy scenario" he got exposed, the original demo leaked and he wasn't saying "I made that bitch famous" meaning this isn't the line taylor agreed to, which is what she talked about in the beginning, but sure stand with the lying trump supporter.

"uses the gay community when it suits" this is just bullshit, the biggest pop start in the world literally needs nothing from the gay community, if anything she could be better off not supporting us and remaining neutral. but she took the risk and supported us. What does she get in return? a punch of ungrateful hateful rats. Stop being entitled, I WISH anyone from the arab world would support us publicly instead of preaching about how we should all die, and you're out there whining that the biggest pop star is supporting us? how privileged can you get.