Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bernie-sanders-predicts-10-000-080000919.html?soc_src=yahooapp What I was think too. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Politico 44 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 This would be amazing! But why entrust Bernie, who has never written and passed a major piece of legislation in his 30 years in Congress, to get this done over policy wonk Elizabeth Warren, the policy wonk who authored much of Dodd-Frank — the biggest economic bill in US history? For me, Bernie’s rhetoric is fine and dandy, but the man is untested and policy chops bested by Warren. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 The whole VA scandal happened under Bernie's watch. He is all rhetoric. Always been. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 To be honest when reading the article it seems pretty good. The right-leaning think tanks didn't criticize that the plan will cut overall health costs by a large chunk, they only criticized that the upper middle class will not benefit from it. If that's the most right-wing criticasters can come up with, it means it's a good plan for the economy. And if a plan that is good for the economy is also good for the disadvantaged, there's absolutely no reason not to implement it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,915 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Jezz OMFG Annual health premiums and healthcare costs are really that high????? I pay about $700 to $800 annually for my health coverage Jezz... With taxes being roughly the same in both countries at least as far as income taxes go, i think American middle class is worse off than Canadian tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted July 2, 2019 Author Share Posted July 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Luc said: To be honest when reading the article it seems pretty good. The right-leaning think tanks didn't criticize that the plan will cut overall health costs by a large chunk, they only criticized that the upper middle class will not benefit from it. If that's the most right-wing criticasters can come up with, it means it's a good plan for the economy. And if a plan that is good for the economy is also good for the disadvantaged, there's absolutely no reason not to implement it. You missed the math...(unintentionally) this plan loweres medical cost for high end income... Lower end will see an increase in taxes vs. health costs.. The part that starkly stands out is the mass shutdown of private practices (un employment).. Not all those people will want a gov. job that will likely pay less and wipe out their seniority , payscale, and vacations.. It's a huge economic shift that's gonna create way more problems than it will solve. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Woolfsmck said: You missed the math...(unintentionally) this plan loweres medical cost for high end income... Lower end will see an increase in taxes vs. health costs.. The part that starkly stands out is the mass shutdown of private practices (un employment).. Not all those people will want a gov. job that will likely pay less and wipe out their seniority , payscale, and vacations.. It's a huge economic shift that's gonna create way more problems than it will solve. I mean, in European countries they spend way less in total on healthcare while having better quality. It's a win-win for the economy and for the healthcare system. If lower income people apparently suffer, they can be compensated with lower taxes or lower premiums, e.g. in the Netherlands the government pays the first €95 of health insurance if your income and (non-first house) assets are low. We have obligatory private insurance by the way, but largely paid for by the government. It still costs a lot for the government, but total costs are wayyyy less than in the US. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted July 2, 2019 Author Share Posted July 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, Luc said: I mean, in European countries they spend way less in total on healthcare while having better quality. It's a win-win for the economy and for the healthcare system. If lower income people apparently suffer, they can be compensated with lower taxes or lower premiums, e.g. in the Netherlands the government pays the first €95 of health insurance if your income and (non-first house) assets are low. We have obligatory private insurance by the way, but largely paid for by the government. It still costs a lot for the government, but total costs are wayyyy less than in the US. EU had less gap between wealthy and poor , each individual nation has their own system, not a system for all the EU. .comparisons to the US don't really equate... Costs are much higher in the US and more people aren't covered or have inadequate coverage. Fixing that is the hard part. Bernie's trying, as are others .. Bernie's plan had holes he's not seeing tho...I think .. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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