Progressive and Conservative LGBTQ+ People Debate 2020 Elections

[Woolfsmck 2,763]

1 hour ago, Economy said:

I'm actually a little scared cuz I genuinely don't remember posting that 

It's called 

"Sleep typing"

 

 

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

35 minutes ago, geopang said:

I don’t watch Fox News darling. It’s called observation and conclusions about what’s actually going on in the world. 

Again, I don’t watch Fox News. Secondly, minorities should be insulted by the tactics going on. As a minority individual myself, i see all of this pandering and tactics to keep minorities voting and putting money in these democratic politicians pockets. So many people are waking up and realizing that the democrat leaders do not truly care at the end of the day. Minorities should also be insulted that all of you demand that they have a specific narrow viewpoint and vote a certain way. 

Thank you. I agree with you. I too am a person of colour/ minority. Not all Conservatives support Trump and not all Liberals are Democrats Trump, as we saw on the panel. This is why many of us are sick of labels, party politics and identity politics. Identity identity identity...that’s all they talk about. Perhaps they are afraid they have NO CHARACTER and that is why they hide behind labels, and why they want to trap us under theirs.

[Whispering 18,865]

1 hour ago, geopang said:

I don’t watch Fox News darling. It’s called observation and conclusions about what’s actually going on in the world. 

Again, I don’t watch Fox News. Secondly, minorities should be insulted by the tactics going on. As a minority individual myself, i see all of this pandering and tactics to keep minorities voting and putting money in these democratic politicians pockets. So many people are waking up and realizing that the democrat leaders do not truly care at the end of the day. Minorities should also be insulted that all of you demand that they have a specific narrow viewpoint and vote a certain way. 

Almost everyone on this forum is a minority of some sort. That doesn't mean that some of them still can't be racist, xenophobic, etc. 

As we type, the Supreme Court is filling their schedule with challenges to the freedoms of minorities. But, go ahead and continue to vote against your human rights. Maybe you don't want basic human rights.

And I see that you were ignoring all facts presented to you, in favor of repeating your talking points. No wonder you like Trump. 

[audrey horne 1,180]

3 hours ago, geopang said:

I love Blaire White and Brandon straka. Could not agree more with Blaire’s comments about “non-binary”

I don't understand how Blaire's reactions could get any support. Trans people move from one side to the other of the gender spectrum. Non-binary people reject both sides. Jamey moved from one side to now rejecting both, it's not that difficult to understand. Gender is a construction after all. 

[geopang 4,831]

4 minutes ago, Archist said:

I don't understand how Blaire's reactions could get any support. Trans people move from one side to the other of the gender spectrum. Non-binary people reject both sides. Jamey moved from one side to now rejecting both, it's not that difficult to understand. Gender is a construction after all. 

I think you should rewatch everything she said, because her points couldn’t be any clearer. There is no scientific basis whatsoever for non-binary, and there is no scientific basis of a gender “spectrum”. The point of being transgender is to “transition” from one gender to the other, through the use of medical and additional alterations. And they definitely have hijacked the trans movement. Actual trans people are not being taken seriously because of the nonsense non-binary individuals expect society to believe. 

[audrey horne 1,180]

51 minutes ago, geopang said:

I think you should rewatch everything she said, because her points couldn’t be any clearer. There is no scientific basis whatsoever for non-binary, and there is no scientific basis of a gender “spectrum”. The point of being transgender is to “transition” from one gender to the other, through the use of medical and additional alterations. And they definitely have hijacked the trans movement. Actual trans people are not being taken seriously because of the nonsense non-binary individuals expect society to believe. 

I totally get what she was going for and I understand that with recent mediatisation of the non-binary termination, trans people could be worried about getting even less attention. I didn't mean to put one group of people against the other and I never would to. I tend to think responsibles are the medias, which might consider discussing non-binary topics to be more aesthetically appealing, because new or whatever (and this is ****ed up !). For me the very definition of such groups is pointless. Everybody do/feel/live whatever the f*** he/she/they wants but that can be so hard in a society so strictly driven by boxes, traditions and lack of representations of any difference.

I also think we should consider all of this outside the scientifics "proofs" based on sex identities and genitalia. For exemple "gender dysphoria" is a medical term invented by cis doctors to put a name on the "disorder" that represents the tough journey being trans. For trans people, the fact to go through medication while admitting to suffer from gender dysphoria is incredibly violent, unfair and based on diagnosis build again, by cis people. Don't get involved in useless fights against people who actually knows trans people difficulties.