Marilyn MonHoe 11,011 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Donald Trump freaked out and threatened a Time magazine reporter with prison after the publication’s photographer apparently tried to take a snap of a letter sent to him by Kim Jong Un. Trump reportedly asked to go off-the-record while he showed off the letter to reporters, but then became enraged after the photographer appeared to try to capture it. “Excuse me—Under Section II—Well, you can go to prison instead, because, if you use, if you use the photograph you took of the letter that I gave you ... confidentially, I didn’t give it to you to take photographs of it, so don’t play that game with me,” the president is quoted as saying in the transcript. Trump then went on a rant about the magazine’s coverage of him “with all I’ve done and the success I’ve had,” and added: “Some day within the next 20 years... maybe you’ll pick me as Man of the Year. OK, big deal.” Source: https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-threatened-time-reporter-with-prison-over-photo-of-kim-jong-un-letter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teawhore 7,667 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Marilyn MonHoe said: Trump then went on a rant about the magazine’s coverage of him “with all I’ve done and the success I’ve had,” WHY DID I HEAR THAT QUOTE IN MARINA'S VOICE IN MY HEAD TO THE MELODY OF TO BE HUMAN ♡ nyc ♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltlmnstr 2,771 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 That’s not how our laws work but this man really wants to be a dictator. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,073 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, ltlmnstr said: That’s not how our laws work but this man really wants to be a dictator. Just look at what he's doing with the Fed and Jerome Powell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I think almost all Americans supported Trump jailing journalists like Julian Assange and Chelsea Manning and they are still being abused and jailed. So why are you surprised after you gave him the green light to illegally do this? Democrats and the media all supported it openly. Obama jailed and persecuted many journalists and spied on them more than any president. Yet nobody has a problem with this unless its Trump! Its very important to oppose Trump on these issues but if you oppose it only because its Trump, these things will continue to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn MonHoe 11,011 Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share Posted June 25, 2019 45 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: I think almost all Americans supported Trump jailing journalists like Julian Assange and Chelsea Manning and they are still being abused and jailed. So why are you surprised after you gave him the green light to illegally do this? Democrats and the media all supported it openly. Obama jailed and persecuted many journalists and spied on them more than any president. Yet nobody has a problem with this unless its Trump! Its very important to oppose Trump on these issues but if you oppose it only because its Trump, these things will continue to happen. I mostly agree with the point that you are making but there are some things wrong with your statement. Obama has never jailed or prosecuted any journalists, but he did crack down on leakers which I definitely do not agree with. Now the media did report on Obama when he went after leakers, the reason Trump got more attention is because he openly boasts about it and posts on Twitter like a child Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn MonHoe 11,011 Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 hour ago, ltlmnstr said: That’s not how our laws work but this man really wants to be a dictator. That’s why he looks up to Putin and Kim Jong-Un and believes them over his own intelligence officials, because he wants to be them so bad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Marilyn MonHoe said: I mostly agree with the point that you are making but there are some things wrong with your statement. Obama has never jailed or prosecuted any journalists, but he did crack down on leakers which I definitely do not agree with. Now the media did report on Obama when he went after leakers, the reason Trump got more attention is because he openly boasts about it and posts on Twitter like a child "Leakers" are journalists, its their job to leak information that is supposed to be public and illegal. I know the media did report this at the time but nobody cares. And I would argue that bragging about your crimes is better than hiding it because the American people will know the truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleficent 6 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Okay but what idiot in their right mind would whip out there camera after the PRESIDENT OF THE US just told them he's showing them something off the record? Like how big of an idiot do you have to be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn MonHoe 11,011 Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Faysalaaa said: "Leakers" are journalists, its their job to leak information that is supposed to be public and illegal. I know the media did report this at the time but nobody cares. And I would argue that bragging about your crimes is better than hiding it because the American people will know the truth. No leakers aren’t journalists. Leakers are the people that work in government that discover information that they deem to be harmful to the public and try to disseminate that information to journalists. I do not agree with you regarding Trump. Not only is he doing what Obama did, he is setting an example for other morally repugnant Republicans and making it seem like assaulting reporters is okay. For example Rep. Greg Gianforte body slammed a reporter and Karen Marshall, former VP of Programs within the Gallatin County Republican Women organization said that she would have shot that same reporter. Trump is a far more dangerous adversary to the press than Obama was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, Marilyn MonHoe said: No leakers aren’t journalists. Leakers are the people that work in government that discover information that they deem to be harmful to the public and try to disseminate that information to journalists. I do not agree with you regarding Trump. Not only is he doing what Obama did, he is setting an example for other morally repugnant Republicans and making it seem like assaulting reporters is okay. For example Rep. Greg Gianforte body slammed a reporter and Karen Marshall, former VP of Programs within the Gallatin County Republican Women organization said that she would have shot that same reporter. Trump is a far more dangerous adversary to the press than Obama was. Not true, the leakers were sometimes actual journalists. They were spied on and threatened to not release information. Anyone who released information was personally targeted by Obama and his government. Under Obama, the Justice Department and the F.B.I. have spied on reporters by monitoring their phone records, labeled one journalist an unindicted co-conspirator in a criminal case for simply doing reporting and issued subpoenas to other reporters to try to force them to reveal their sources and testify in criminal cases. Obama’s record of going after both journalists and their sources has set a dangerous precedent that Trump can easily exploit. Obama’s attorney general repeatedly allowed the F.B.I. to use intrusive measures against reporters more often than any time in recent memory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn MonHoe 11,011 Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share Posted June 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Faysalaaa said: Not true, the leakers were sometimes actual journalists. They were spied on and threatened to not release information. Anyone who released information was personally targeted by Obama and his government. Under Obama, the Justice Department and the F.B.I. have spied on reporters by monitoring their phone records, labeled one journalist an unindicted co-conspirator in a criminal case for simply doing reporting and issued subpoenas to other reporters to try to force them to reveal their sources and testify in criminal cases. Obama’s record of going after both journalists and their sources has set a dangerous precedent that Trump can easily exploit. Obama’s attorney general repeatedly allowed the F.B.I. to use intrusive measures against reporters more often than any time in recent memory. Like I said before, in order to be a leaker you need to have access to government information like being a part of the FBI or being a part of the National Security Agency. Therefore not journalists. Here are the eight people Obama charged under the Espionage Act, none of them reporters: http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/12/5/obama-and-leakerswhoaretheeightchargedunderespionageact.html I don’t disagree with the rest of what you are saying but that still isn’t persecuting reporters and throwing them in jail which was your initial argument. Doing that would be against their First Amendment rights. Besides Trump is doing all of that and is also getting reporters hurt in real life. I would say that is worse than Obama by a long shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 32 minutes ago, Marilyn MonHoe said: Like I said before, in order to be a leaker you need to have access to government information like being a part of the FBI or being a part of the National Security Agency. Therefore not journalists. Here are the eight people Obama charged under the Espionage Act, none of them reporters: http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/12/5/obama-and-leakerswhoaretheeightchargedunderespionageact.html I don’t disagree with the rest of what you are saying but that still isn’t persecuting reporters and throwing them in jail which was your initial argument. Doing that would be against their First Amendment rights. Besides Trump is doing all of that and is also getting reporters hurt in real life. I would say that is worse than Obama by a long shot. Trump threatened journalists just like Obama did. Obama labeled journalists criminals, a threat, banned them, and allowed the FBI to spy on them and and use that information to threaten them. In 2013, the Obama Justice Department labeled journalist James Rosen a “criminal co-conspirator” under the Espionage Act of 1917. And all because the reporter used a State Department contractor as a source for a story. Rosen was also labeled a "flight risk." But sure I dont care who is worse than the other, I think that is invalid to me.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn MonHoe 11,011 Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share Posted June 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: Trump threatened journalists just like Obama did. Obama labeled journalists criminals, a threat, banned them, and allowed the FBI to spy on them and and use that information to threaten them. In 2013, the Obama Justice Department labeled journalist James Rosen a “criminal co-conspirator” under the Espionage Act of 1917. And all because the reporter used a State Department contractor as a source for a story. Rosen was also labeled a "flight risk." But sure I dont care who is worse than the other, I think that is invalid.. Obama went after Fox News not after the media itself like Trump is doing. That’s a huge difference. James Rosen was never charged with anything though. That’s still different from declaring the free press as “The enemy of the people”. Trump is worse than Obama in many respects, including this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, Marilyn MonHoe said: Obama went after Fox News not after the media itself like Trump is doing. That’s a huge difference. James Rosen was never charged with anything though. That’s still different from declaring the free press as “The enemy of the people”. Trump is worse than Obama in many respects, including this one. It is a true accurate statement that the Media is the enemy of the people and its legal to say that. What im talking about is something completely different, im talking about targeting journalists and their free speech by illegally using government power to censor them, threaten the, and attack them which both Trump and Obama did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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