Morphine Prince 109,691 Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 The idea we can’t criticize Democrats because we are doing “Trump’s work” is so misguided. Where do I even begin? The primaries are EXACTLY for this. To pick the BEST candidate most Democrats think should head to the general election. That assumes we will criticize EVERY single candidate. What you people want is for us to become SHEEP like the Republicans who vote for anyone with a ****ing “R” next to their name and don’t give a **** about the rest. Well, I REFUSE. That got Republicans DONALD TRUMP. One party is already a complete disgrace, the Democratic party can still be saved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Whispering said: In the majority of areas, it was busing black children to white schools. It wasn’t that the white people were the only ones against it. The black parents didn’t want their kids on buses for hours everyday. They wanted their children to go to neighborhood schools, to the same schools they had gone to and graduated from. Black people have a strong sense of community and they didn’t want to be involved in the busing mess either. Centrism has poisoned your mind to an extent that you're re-writing history to justify a man's decision to collaborate with segregationists and white supremacists to attack desegregation efforts. And what the f*ck is that "Black people have a strong sense of community" line? You're white. Jesus christ. Biden didn't oppose busing in his 72 run, only coming out against it in 75 when his white constituents in Delaware demanded that he do so: (https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/joe-biden-integration-school-busing-120968, https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2019/02/joe-biden-segregation.html) And the justification you're attempting to use there wasn't what Biden pointed to when he was sending letters to racist segregationists in office vying for their votes. He justified his own busing bill by claiming that "there [was] no evidence that the governmental officials intended to discriminate" in allowing schools to remain segregated the way they were. Biden supported an anti-busing amendment introduced by a segregationist. He supported another anti-busing amendment proposed by a former Ku Klux Klan recruiter. You cannot spin this or defend it. It's one of many hideous stains on his god-awful record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, OG Gaga Stan said: Centrism has poisoned your mind to an extent that you're re-writing history to justify a man's decision to collaborate with segregationists and white supremacists to attack desegregation efforts. And what the f*ck is that "Black people have a strong sense of community" line? You're a middle-aged white woman. Jesus christ. Biden didn't oppose busing in his 72 run, only coming out against it in 75 when his white constituents in Delaware demanded that he do so: (https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/joe-biden-integration-school-busing-120968, https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2019/02/joe-biden-segregation.html) And the justification you're attempting to use there wasn't what Biden pointed to when he was sending letters to racist segregationists in office vying for their votes. He justified his own busing bill by claiming that "there [was] no evidence that the governmental officials intended to discriminate" in allowing schools to remain segregated the way they were. Biden supported an anti-busing amendment introduced by a segregationist. He supported another anti-busing amendment proposed by a former Ku Klux Klan recruiter. You cannot spin this or defend it. It's one of many hideous stains on his god-awful record. Oh, stop. Reality is reality. Black people do have a strong sense of community. They fight to keep their neighborhood schools open all the time for this very reason. Middle aged white woman? WTF are you talking about? Your extreme support for one candidate is making you as bad as the crazy Trump supporters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverLoader 1,254 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 55 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Well, I REFUSE. That got Republicans DONALD TRUMP. One party is already a complete disgrace, the Democratic party can still be saved. Maybe we can get Hilldog to run a third time then? Just saying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverLoader 1,254 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Whispering said: Oh, stop. Reality is reality. Black people do have a strong sense of community. They fight to keep their neighborhood schools open all the time for this very reason. Middle aged white woman? WTF are you talking about? Your extreme support for one candidate is making you as bad as the crazy Trump supporters. Are you black? I am. I'm indigenous Australian. You speak with such authority on what black people would and should do. What exactly are your credentials here to state things so emphatically? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,691 Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, RoverLoader said: Maybe we can get Hilldog to run a third time then? Just saying Gross Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn MonHoe 11,011 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Morphine Prince said: The idea we can’t criticize Democrats because we are doing “Trump’s work” is so misguided. Where do I even begin? The primaries are EXACTLY for this. To pick the BEST candidate most Democrats think should head to the general election. That assumes we will criticize EVERY single candidate. What you people want is for us to become SHEEP like the Republicans who vote for anyone with a ****ing “R” next to their name and don’t give a **** about the rest. Well, I REFUSE. That got Republicans DONALD TRUMP. One party is already a complete disgrace, the Democratic party can still be saved. Imagine being against the American primary process just because your candidate is being criticized As usual you and @OG Gaga Stan are correct. The delusional centrists are in full force again, saying ridiculous things like the “far left” is helping Trump Anyone who thinks that obviously has no idea about our current state of politics or the reason why Trump won in 2016. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, RoverLoader said: Are you black? I am. I'm indigenous Australian. You speak with such authority on what black people would and should do. What exactly are you credentials here to state things so emphatically? So...you don’t live in the US? Did you grow up with a racially mixed family in the south, in one of the historically black cities? What do you know about black people in the Southern Cities of the US? If you lived here, had lived here, you would know that black communities fight to keep their neighborhood schools open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Woolfsmck said: The far left is doing .more for trump than trump If Biden can’t handle the far left then he can’t handle Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, Born To Slay said: If Biden can’t handle the far left then he can’t handle Trump Trump and co. are gonna use any dirt they can against the Dem's nom.... just sayn' like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 17 minutes ago, Woolfsmck said: Trump and co. are gonna use any dirt they can against the Dem's nom.... just sayn' Of course! Hence why the democrats having a polite primary is stupid, if you can’t even handle members of ur own party attacking, U can’t be the nominee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonG 448 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Whispering said: Your extreme support for one candidate is making you as bad as the crazy Trump supporters. Couldn't have said it better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverLoader 1,254 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 7 hours ago, Whispering said: So...you don’t live in the US? Did you grow up with a racially mixed family in the south, in one of the historically black cities? What do you know about black people in the Southern Cities of the US? If you lived here, had lived here, you would know that black communities fight to keep their neighborhood schools open. I've lived in Detroit (is that historically black enough for you) and Boston. I've worked for several years in the US, so your point? The question was what do YOU know about it all? Are you Rachael Dolziel? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 3 hours ago, RoverLoader said: I've lived in Detroit (is that historically black enough for you) and Boston. I've worked for several years in the US, so your point? The question was what do YOU know about it all? Are you Rachael Dolziel? Did you see historically black neighborhoods in Detroit fighting to stay that way? (Meaning trying to keep their community centers, churches and schools open?) Maybe the South is different from Detroit? IDK? Don't be ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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