Morphine Prince 109,729 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Joseph R. Biden Jr., defending himself on Tuesday night against suggestions that he is too “old fashioned” for today’s Democratic Party, invoked two Southern segregationist senators by name as he fondly recalled the “civility” of the Senate in the 1970s and 1980s. “I know the new New Left tells me that I’m — this is old-fashioned,” he said. “Well guess what? If we can’t reach a consensus in our system, what happens? It encourages and demands the abuse of power by a president.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,898 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 He's clearly saying that even though those senators were absolute trash, and he didn't agree with them at all, they actually got stuff done w/ them instead of today where even bipartisan legislation is shot down by McConnell because he doesn't want the Dems to have anything. Y'all are focusing on the wrong part. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonG 448 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 The far left needs to stop tearing the man apart. If you can beat him in the primaries, go for it. But if he becomes the democratic nominee, don't do Trump's job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie 5 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 He’s a terrible democrat but I feel like it’ll be Hillary all over again — the terrible democrat we have no choice to vote for to beat trump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 32 minutes ago, brownie said: He’s a terrible democrat but I feel like it’ll be Hillary all over again — the terrible democrat we have no choice to vote for to beat trump. And inevtably lose all over again. You guys never learn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen 5,430 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, MasonG said: The far left needs to stop tearing the man apart. If you can beat him in the primaries, go for it. But if he becomes the democratic nominee, don't do Trump's job. they will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonG 448 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Azor Ahai said: And inevtably lose all over again. You guys never learn. As I said, primaries is your chance to get your candidate to win. So if you think Biden will lose to Trump. Pick someone else in the primaries. But if he becomes the nominee, don't divide the democratic party. Any of these candidates is still better than Trump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 5 hours ago, FATCAT said: He's clearly saying that even though those senators were absolute trash, and he didn't agree with them at all, they actually got stuff done w/ them instead of today where even bipartisan legislation is shot down by McConnell because he doesn't want the Dems to have anything. Y'all are focusing on the wrong part. He literally isn't saying that. This is the 20th or so time he's invoked this exact same rhetoric when talking about how he got along with segregationists in the past: We didn't agree on everything, but we'd work together and hang out and pal around when we weren't on the clock. He's literally called numerous white supremacists that he used to work with "good friends." Spend five minutes googling any of this. And you do understand that the "stuff they got done" was nearly uniformly destructive and deeply racist and regressive, right? He worked with them to turn the democratic party against racial de-segregation measures: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/11/politics/joe-biden-busing-letters-2020/index.html I have absolutely no idea why you're in every single one of these threads defending this racist, garbage politician, but it's embarrassing. We've just started a political primary, the express purpose of which is to criticize politicians we disagree with and to re-litigate their political legacy so as to hold them accountable as they vie for the most powerful political position in the world. It's our job to bring this stuff up now so we don't end up with this right-wing dumb*ss as our party representative and possible president. This isn't a game. There are real consequences that we and more vulnerable people have to live with if this colossal moron wins the nomination (and almost certainly loses to Trump). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 35,221 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 **** Biden and his fake ass. Republican in Democratic clothing lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonG 448 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 58 minutes ago, OG Gaga Stan said: He literally isn't saying that. This is the 20th or so time he's invoked this exact same rhetoric when talking about how he got along with segregationists in the past: We didn't agree on everything, but we'd work together and hang out and pal around when we weren't on the clock. He's literally called numerous white supremacists that he used to work with "good friends." Spend five minutes googling any of this. And you do understand that the "stuff they got done" was nearly uniformly destructive and deeply racist and regressive, right? He worked with them to turn the democratic party against racial de-segregation measures: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/11/politics/joe-biden-busing-letters-2020/index.html I have absolutely no idea why you're in every single one of these threads defending this racist, garbage politician, but it's embarrassing. We've just started a political primary, the express purpose of which is to criticize politicians we disagree with and to re-litigate their political legacy so as to hold them accountable as they vie for the most powerful political position in the world. It's our job to bring this stuff up now so we don't end up with this right-wing dumb*ss as our party representative and possible president. This isn't a game. There are real consequences that we and more vulnerable people have to live with if this colossal moron wins the nomination (and almost certainly loses to Trump). Here we go with the political experts twisting words. Joe Biden was ALWAYS against segregation. Do not confuse public busing with segregation. Those are different issues. And busing didn't work anyway, and it was abandoned later. So your point is COMPLETELY POINTLESS. If he was a racist as you claim, he wouldn't have been selected as VP by the first african american president of the U.S. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, MasonG said: Here we go with the political experts twisting words. Joe Biden was ALWAYS against segregation. Do not confuse public busing with segregation. Those are different issues. And busing didn't work anyway, and it was abandoned later. So your point is COMPLETELY POINTLESS. If he was a racist as you claim, he wouldn't have been selected as VP by the first african american president of the U.S. ...What the h*ll are you talking about? "Public busing" wasn't related to segregation? It was literally an attempt to desegregate racially segregated schools by busing students from previously all white schools to previously all black schools or vice versa. And that Obama line... You either have no idea what the h*ll you're talking about, you're 60 years old or you're a troll. Either way, you're getting ignored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 35,221 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 20 minutes ago, MasonG said: Here we go with the political experts twisting words. Joe Biden was ALWAYS against segregation. Do not confuse public busing with segregation. Those are different issues. And busing didn't work anyway, and it was abandoned later. So your point is COMPLETELY POINTLESS. If he was a racist as you claim, he wouldn't have been selected as VP by the first african american president of the U.S. Dude, that's segregation. Don't act dumb lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 5 hours ago, MasonG said: The far left needs to stop tearing the man apart. If you can beat him in the primaries, go for it. But if he becomes the democratic nominee, don't do Trump's job. The far left is doing .more for trump than trump like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie 5 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Azor Ahai said: And inevtably lose all over again. You guys never learn. It’s the PRIMARY dude. Chill. Whole point of the primary is picking the best candidate and he ain’t it chief Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, OG Gaga Stan said: ...What the h*ll are you talking about? "Public busing" wasn't related to segregation? It was literally an attempt to desegregate racially segregated schools by busing students from previously all white schools to previously all black schools or vice versa. And that Obama line... You either have no idea what the h*ll you're talking about, you're 60 years old or you're a troll. Either way, you're getting ignored. In the majority of areas, it was busing black children to white schools. It wasn’t that the white people were the only ones against it. The black parents didn’t want their kids on buses for hours everyday. They wanted their children to go to neighborhood schools, to the same schools they had gone to and graduated from. Black people have a strong sense of community and they didn’t want to be involved in the busing mess either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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