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13 minutes ago, holy scheisse said:

She misunderstood what feminism was at the time. She's an identifying feminist now that she understands what that word means 

Feminist says I fight for woman rights but the actions says I also attack supermodels cause they do not represent me. It seems like the real feminism is just a theory.

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14 minutes ago, The Bad Joker said:

Is this seriously your answer? You don't think men have had an enormous privilege throughout history? Nobody's denying violence against men, there IS violence against men. But women suffer a LOT MORE, and they suffered from sexism ALL THROUGHOUT HISTORY. The sexism we see today in society is mainly against women. A good way of representing this is thinking about a country that is to men what some Muslim countries are to women. They don't exist. Men aren't actively oppressed. They never were. Really, read some books, please.

It's incredible how this still has to be explained to people in 2019, even on ****ing Gagadaily!

 

 

1 minute ago, AlvariusFlame said:

And just because  men had an enormous privilege before you aren't to do anything?

Oh Typical alt-lefty argument "read a book" Ok What kind of books do I have to read? An Anita Sarkeesian's  one?

 

And I'm sorry but isn't this a kind of oppression (and agression) 

 

 

This is your typical "but what about...?" 
Nobody is condoning this type of behavior, Alvarius! This is a sad byproduct, which a lot of things have.
And logically, people with common sense are against these extreme actions.
But using such things as an argument for "FEMINISM IS BAD" is just not correct.

Saying things like "i'm a menist" or "peoples" is belittling and denying the importance of feminism.
Feminism IS wanting the equality of BOTH. "Then why is it called feminism?" -> Because that's where the problem lies!: Women STILL getting systematically treated as inferior to men.

You can't progress and get equality if you don't name the problem. 

There have been loads of people who put this already way better in words, so I hope I'm clear. But it's frustrating that this still has to be explained over and over again. But as you see, that's also shows the problem itself and shows why feminism is needed.

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Just now, NewUsername said:

It's incredible how this still has to be explained to people in 2019, even on ****ing Gagadaily!

 

 

This is your typical "but what about...?" 
Nobody is condoning this type of behavior, Alvarius! This is a sad byproduct, which a lot of things have.
And logically, people with common sense are against these extreme actions.
But using such things as an argument for "FEMINISM IS BAD" is just not correct.

Saying things like "i'm a menist" or "peoples" is belittling and denying the importance of feminism.
Feminism IS wanting the equality of BOTH. "Then why is it called feminism?" -> Because that's where the problem lies!: Women STILL getting systematically treated as inferior to men.

You can't progress and get equality if you don't name the problem. 

There have been loads of people who put this already way better in words, so I hope I'm clear. But it's frustrating that this still has to be explained over and over again. But as you see, that's also shows the problem itself and shows why feminism is needed.

 

Hahaha! So Basically you say that It's feminist when it's good but it's fake when it's bad. That's Hypocrite. 

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5 minutes ago, AlvariusFlame said:

 

Hahaha! So Basically you say that It's feminist when it's good but it's fake when it's bad. That's Hypocrite. 

gosh, you're really so tiring. This is not at all what I said.
It's almost impossible to have a discussion with you (see topic Vatican - gender).

Most probably you'll now interpret this as "lol, see, NewUsername gives up, I'm right", because that's just how things normally go...

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10 minutes ago, AlvariusFlame said:

Feminist says I fight for woman rights but the actions says I also attack supermodels cause they do not represent me. It seems like the real feminism is just a theory.

oh ok so body positivity, that could be part of feminism--celebrating different body types.  but real feminism doesn't shame skinny supermodels for having the "ideal" body shape :laughga: i think you have a bad taste in your mouth from certain people who tried to bring people down in the name of feminism, but again thats not what its about. you gotta use critical judgment to know when people are misusing the word, yknow? 

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2 minutes ago, holy scheisse said:

oh ok so body positivity, that could be part of feminism--celebrating different body types.  but real feminism doesn't shame skinny supermodels for having the "ideal" body shape :laughga: i think you have a bad taste in your mouth from certain people who tried to bring people down in the name of feminism, but again thats not what its about. you gotta use critical judgment to know when people are misusing the word, yknow? 

exactly what he is doing, for it to fit his narrative. But hey, he'll probably say it's US that are doing this :ohwell::saladga:

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1 hour ago, AlvariusFlame said:

And just because  men had an enormous privilege before you aren't to do anything?

Oh Typical alt-lefty argument "read a book" Ok What kind of books do I have to read? An Anita Sarkeesian's  one?

 

And I'm sorry but isn't this a kind of oppression (and agression) 

 

 

“Some people have said that my video is also very radical, and yes, that's true. But it's not in any way connected with feminism or the hatred of men," she tells BBC Trending. 

"Right now, feminism is not about equality, it is about bad feelings towards men, hatred. I don't like this word very much, because of the way it was distorted. It's really been turned upside down."

A direct quote from the woman who made the video. She’s one of you. 

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Miracle

I think she meant "people-ist" as "you make me kinder". She's mentioned she's a feminist many times, just watch the ASIB interviews

 

 

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1 hour ago, AlvariusFlame said:

Feminist says I fight for woman rights but the actions says I also attack supermodels cause they do not represent me. It seems like the real feminism is just a theory.

oh ffs just shut up

 

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9 hours ago, AlvariusFlame said:

And just because  men had an enormous privilege before you aren't to do anything?

Oh Typical alt-lefty argument "read a book" Ok What kind of books do I have to read? An Anita Sarkeesian's  one?

 

And I'm sorry but isn't this a kind of oppression (and agression) 

 

 

...this is a fake viral video staged by anti-feminists.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/8/17950694/woman-bleaching-manspreaders-subway-viral-video-russian-anti-feminist-propaganda

I’m sorry but you are so absolutely uninformed.

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47 minutes ago, gag said:

...this is a fake viral video staged by anti-feminists.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/8/17950694/woman-bleaching-manspreaders-subway-viral-video-russian-anti-feminist-propaganda

I’m sorry but you are so absolutely uninformed.

As soon as he pulled up that old chestnut, I knew he was talking out of his ass. I wish more people knew that **** was fake.

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I like what she said, others will disagree but :shrug:

Also, can we not with the "fake feminism" stuff. Its not fake feminism, it's the different waves of feminism and they definitely clash. 

Either way I'm all for feminism, empowering women  doesnt detract from the struggles men face and it certainly shouldn't hinder the fight for men either. Thinking feminism is an attack on men is just ego. 

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