JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: I do have a point.. imagine actually making an actual argument to prove im wrong instead of just telling me I dont have a point. Also, I dont know what that article has to do with anything we are talking about Some people change for the better when it comes to gay views. What's wrong with that? The problem is when they align themselves and make policy desicions based on reverse LGBTQ growth and empathy like Trump has. As if people have to pop out of a vagina loving the LGBTQ community. Otherwise they aren't genuine or an ally. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 35,047 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 2 hours ago, shoful said: Yup Oh wow, so you're an actual terrible human. Here I was thinking you were just a troll trying to get it's kicks from triggering people online lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, FATCAT said: This is not true. That's Russian propaganda. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43697084 We dont have Russian Propaganda in the Middle East. Everyone here knows its not true and even the ones who believe it have no proof who did it. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/douma-syria-opcw-chemical-weapons-chlorine-gas-video-conspiracy-theory-russia-a8927116.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said: When did I indicate that I thought that? Dude, you're literally making blanket assumptions and putting words in people's mouths just to try to make a point. A point which gets lost in all your bullshít lol Ok ill ask you this, do you think its normal for Gays to vote for Obama or Hilary at the time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHALLOW 16,469 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 2 hours ago, RoverLoader said: And? Even if he is so what? That argument is like when people criticise celebrities for giving to charity: "Oh you're just doing that to look good!". The bottom line is the charity gets the money right? It doesn't matter what Trumpies motivations are: it's a good thing for the President of the USA to be saying this. Cmon now, let's not be contrary for the sake of it No,cause he's fooling people who are then going to elect him again. That's pretty obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,886 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: We dont have Russian Propaganda in the Middle East. Everyone here knows its not true and even the ones who believe it have no proof who did it. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/douma-syria-opcw-chemical-weapons-chlorine-gas-video-conspiracy-theory-russia-a8927116.html You have the internet, so you definitely have some form of Russian propaganda. Here's a video of children suffering after the gas attack. This is not the first, and I doubt it will be the last time that Assad and his horrific evil regime use chemical weapons on civilians. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleficent 6 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 2 hours ago, shoful said: Yup @ everyone who sad reacted this—maybe read all 440 pages before you throw bs around https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/final-conscience-rule.pdf he’s not stripping away trans rights. he’s giving rights to religious healthcare workers. you don’t need to understand them to respect their religious beliefs—which is exactly what trans ppl ask of society (ironically) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said: Some people change for the better when it comes to gay views. What's wrong with that? The problem is when they align themselves and make policy desicions based on reverse LGBTQ growth and empathy like Trump has. As if people have to pop out of a vagina loving the LGBTQ community. Otherwise they aren't genuine or an ally. Ok that is a good argument but I still disagree because I dont think they changed because of growth. They change because they had to with time if they wanted to be elected. But I dont have evidence for that so.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 35,047 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: Ok ill ask you this, do you think its normal for Gays to vote for Obama or Hilary at the time? Normal? Yes, after they changed their views on gay rights after the general public started accepting us more. Before that, no because they were both against gay rights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHALLOW 16,469 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, HoldenC said: No it isnt any different. If you think the CEO of these companies cares about us, you're mistaken. I meant that they don't get to decide on laws. They don't have the same power as the president so their opinion doesn't matter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,645 Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Maleficent said: @ everyone who sad reacted this—maybe read all 440 pages before you throw bs around https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/final-conscience-rule.pdf he’s not stripping away trans rights. he’s giving rights to religious healthcare workers. you don’t need to understand them to respect their religious beliefs—which is exactly what trans ppl ask of society (ironically) By taking away a trans person's right to even exist. You shouldn't "give" groups rights by taking away other groups' existence hostage. This is BS and you know it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMonster 15,025 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, FATCAT said: You're right. If an LGBT person wants to criminalize being gay, they shouldn't be pressured about it. I agree that Trump is not an LGBT ally. I agree that he is a not a president who promotes equality. And I agree that he has policies that are anti-LGBT. But... that doesn't mean that some gay people, for whatever their reason, should be judged or excluded from supporting Trump. There are other issues in America that perhaps some gay people think Trump deals with well, possibly outweighing his stance in areas of progressiveness. LGBT inclusivity *should* be a given in any country, but there are other issues on the table, too. Perhaps some gay people encounter issues unrelated to their sexuality - issues that they think Trump might deal with. It's not fair to judge someone's morality for simply using their right to vote. And if a gay person wants to vote for Trump, then so be it. That doesn't mean we can't try to educate people with the appropriate messaging - but it does mean that judging people achieves nothing but only further divisions. subtext / fantasy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,886 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 minute ago, OMonster said: I agree that Trump is not an LGBT ally. I agree that he is a not a president who promotes equality. And I agree that he has policies that are anti-LGBT. But... that doesn't mean that some gay people, for whatever their reason, should be judged or excluded from supporting Trump. There are other issues in America that perhaps some gay people think Trump deals with well, possibly outweighing his stance in areas of progressiveness. LGBT inclusivity *should* be a given in any country, but there are other issues on the table, too. Perhaps some gay people encounter issues unrelated to their sexuality - issues that they think Trump might deal with. It's not fair to judge someone's morality for simply using their right to vote. And if a gay person wants to vote for Trump, then so be it. That doesn't mean we can't try to educate people with the appropriate messaging - but it does mean that judging people achieves nothing but only further divisions. There's more to it than that. It's not just his LGBT history of policies, it's his morality. It's his competency. It's his childishness. You'd be right if this were Mitt Romney, but Trump is a special kind of evil that LGBT people should be able to recognize. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, FATCAT said: You have the internet, so you definitely have some form of Russian propaganda. Here's a video of children suffering after the gas attack. This is not the first, and I doubt it will be the last time that Assad and his horrific evil regime use chemical weapons on civilians. I just linked you an article by one of the most known award winning journalist proving you wrong. My sources are not the internet, its from living in the Middle East I have family living close to Douma. Ever heard of operation northwood? ever heard of the fake baby incubators stories? and you still believe your government? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said: Normal? Yes, after they changed their views on gay rights after the general public started accepting us more. Before that, no because they were both against gay rights. I mean Gays who voted for Obama during the time he was anti gay, is that ok? I personally think it is okay because you dont have any good choices and two horrible political parties. I dont blame Gay Trump supporters or Gay democrats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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